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Steve Hayes  
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 Más opciones 4 nov 2009, 23:28
Grupos de noticias: alt.spam, alt.usage.english
De: Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:28:22 +0200
Local: Mié 4 nov 2009 23:28
Asunto: Letter to an alien spammer
Someone calling themselves oxsumms
of dwpyuwvbdbfq.com/
giving the e-mail address of dat...@glfrag.com

Attempted to post the follow spam comment on my blog this morning.

qzwsPE ntrdcanlqxxc, [url=http://qadfozdfvdvs.com/]qadfozdfvdvs[/url],
[link=http://uuicltrgblpo.com/]uuicltrgblpo[/link], http://edqnyngtpngu.com/

I usually delete about 4-5 such spam comments each week, identical in form,
though using different combinations of nonsense letters and nonsene URLs.

I'm just curious about why these are being posted? What's in it for you? What
reward is there for such futile and meaningless activity?

I suppose it is just possible that somewhere in a galaxy far far away there is
a language in which "qzwsPE ntrdcanlqxxc" means "Enlarge your nine penises",
but what mere earthling could be expected to understand it, much less be
tempted by the offer?

So what does motivate people (or extraterrestrial space aliens) to engage in
such futile, meaningless and apparently unrewarding behaviour?

Enquiring minds want to know.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk


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Nick  
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 Más opciones 5 nov 2009, 04:53
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De: Nick <3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk>
Fecha: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:53:03 +0000
Local: Jue 5 nov 2009 04:53
Asunto: Re: Letter to an alien spammer

I don't know.  

But my guess is that they have a number of scouts that test systems, and
if you allow them through and leave them there for a while a much larger
number will come along and post actual spam and links.  They don't want
to waste their domain registrations (usually bought with stolen
credit-cards by the way) on active spam hunters who might report them.
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R H Draney  
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 Más opciones 5 nov 2009, 04:54
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De: R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net>
Fecha: 4 Nov 2009 23:54:22 -0800
Local: Jue 5 nov 2009 04:54
Asunto: Re: Letter to an alien spammer
Nick filted:

It's probably an intermediate step, following on from the ones I occasionally
get that have no sender name, no date, no subject line, and no message
body...sometimes they'll go so far as to make the date field read "Message
Date"....r

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A pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?


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MrD  
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 Más opciones 5 nov 2009, 06:30
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De: MrD <mrdemean...@jackpot.invalid>
Fecha: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:30:54 +0000
Local: Jue 5 nov 2009 06:30
Asunto: Re: Letter to an alien spammer

[Newsgroups trimmed]

The link appears in your blog comments, and (depending on how your blog
is coded) confers on the linked page some of your Google page-rank. By
posting thousands of such comments, the spammer hopes to boost the
page-rank of the target page. That page, in turn, confers some of its
own page-rank on any links that may appear within it.

Nobody (except search-engines) is supposed to actually *visit* the page
in question; it will probably turn out to be just a page of links, used
by some SEO cowboy to pump the linked pages for money.

In this case the links seem to go nowhere, and the respective domains
don't seem to exist. Therefore I presume either that the spammer screwed
up, or that he's just experimenting, or that the domains in question got
nuked and the bot that's posting the comment-spam hasn't been told.

--
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Steve Hayes  
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 Más opciones 5 nov 2009, 09:23
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De: Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:23:35 +0200
Local: Jue 5 nov 2009 09:23
Asunto: Re: Letter to an alien spammer

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:30:54 +0000, MrD <mrdemean...@jackpot.invalid> wrote:
>In this case the links seem to go nowhere, and the respective domains
>don't seem to exist. Therefore I presume either that the spammer screwed
>up, or that he's just experimenting, or that the domains in question got
>nuked and the bot that's posting the comment-spam hasn't been told.

But there must be a lot of spammers experimenting then -- I sometimes get 3-4
in a day, same format, different content, and the links don't ever seem to go
anywhere. I delete them all with one click, but if I did post them, I wonder
what benefit the spammer would receive.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk


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MrD  
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 Más opciones 5 nov 2009, 11:16
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De: MrD <mrdemean...@jackpot.invalid>
Fecha: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:16:08 +0000
Local: Jue 5 nov 2009 11:16
Asunto: Re: Letter to an alien spammer

Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:30:54 +0000, MrD <mrdemean...@jackpot.invalid>
> wrote:

>> In this case the links seem to go nowhere, and the respective
>> domains don't seem to exist. Therefore I presume either that the
>> spammer screwed up, or that he's just experimenting, or that the
>> domains in question got nuked and the bot that's posting the
>> comment-spam hasn't been told.

> But there must be a lot of spammers experimenting then --

-- or screwing up, or getting their domains nuked.

> I sometimes get 3-4 in a day, same format, different content,

In just one day? That many?!? Wow.

> and the links don't ever seem to go anywhere. I delete them all with
> one click, but if I did post them, I wonder what benefit the spammer
> would receive.

I don't know how much page-rank your blog has. Probably not much - very
few blogs have high traffic. But if thousands of other low-traffic blogs
all link to the same spammer's page, then he probably gets a lot more
google-juice than you do. Assuming his page exists - which in this case
it doesn't.

Comment-spam is just like email spam, in that posting it is cost-free;
so it's economically viable to auto-post indiscriminately, to as many
addresses as possible, as often as possible, regardless of whether
submissions are accepted or rejected.

--
MrD.
http://ipquery.org


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Prai Jei  
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 Más opciones 5 nov 2009, 15:29
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De: Prai Jei <pvstownsend.zyx....@ntlworld.com>
Fecha: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:29:55 +0000
Local: Jue 5 nov 2009 15:29
Asunto: Re: Letter to an alien spammer
Steve Hayes set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

The random letters are there to defeat spamtraps which look for the same
message going to zillions of blogs at once. Since each blog gets treated to
different words in this other-galaxian language, the messages are not the
same and the spamtrap doesn't trigger.

> I suppose it is just possible that somewhere in a galaxy far far away
> there is a language in which "qzwsPE ntrdcanlqxxc" means "Enlarge your
> nine penises", but what mere earthling could be expected to understand it,
> much less be tempted by the offer?

There are many of us who indulge in artificial languages - we had at one
time a whole newsgroup to ourselves (alt.language.artificial) but it has
been moribund for the last year or so. There is a language in which "prai
jei" means "blue eyes" (yes they are), and it can be found, not in a
far-away galaxy, but in a perfectly ordinary website here on earth.

However, I don't think "qzwsPE ntrdcanlqxxc" or any other outpourings in
this singular tongue are intended to have any meaning. As with all spam,
you are simply getting advertising from an untraceable source.

Udoi em ulova si! (Keep on deleting 'em!)
--
ξ:) Proud to be curly

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Steve Hayes  
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 Más opciones 5 nov 2009, 22:30
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De: Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:30:35 +0200
Local: Jue 5 nov 2009 22:30
Asunto: Re: Letter to an alien spammer
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:29:55 +0000, Prai Jei

<pvstownsend.zyx....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>However, I don't think "qzwsPE ntrdcanlqxxc" or any other outpourings in
>this singular tongue are intended to have any meaning. As with all spam,
>you are simply getting advertising from an untraceable source.

Aye, but it is also advertising an unknown product from a non-existent
supplier.

Someone said that they were intended to improve a Google page rank -- but
improving the page rank of a nonexistent page still seems a futile activity.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk


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Pete  
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 Más opciones 7 nov 2009, 19:55
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De: neverl...@GOODEVEca.net (Pete)
Fecha: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:55:56 -0600
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 19:55
Asunto: Re: Letter to an alien spammer
In article <7ru6f5tbsj8glmcnspfsgredaj4t4r8...@4ax.com>,
Steve Hayes  <hayes...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:29:55 +0000, Prai Jei
><pvstownsend.zyx....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>However, I don't think "qzwsPE ntrdcanlqxxc" or any other outpourings in
>>this singular tongue are intended to have any meaning. As with all spam,
>>you are simply getting advertising from an untraceable source.

>Aye, but it is also advertising an unknown product from a non-existent
>supplier.

>Someone said that they were intended to improve a Google page rank -- but
>improving the page rank of a nonexistent page still seems a futile activity.

Yeah, I've been reading all the replies to your query, and they don't
really satify me either.

I've been getting these posts at intervals for a long while (the latest set
around midnight this morning).  They don't actually go anywhere except into
my private log, because they don't match the code I use (and they'd just
be mail to me, not a blog post, anyway...) but they're common enough that
I think they must have some real [and presumably sinister!] purpose.

I wondered if the garbage URLs are 'evanescent' addresses that could be
used to pass data like credit card numbers around, but I don't see how
they could actually get entered into the DNS world to get accessed.

It is indeed a puzzlement.

                -- Pete -

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