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tcats.stop-spam.org ---------------------------------- The Carrot and the Stick Project This is simply multiple blacklist with access to white lists. ----------------------------------
bnbl.tcats.stop-spam.org ---------------------------------- BotNet Blacklist - 100,000 IP addresses for botted machines already. ----------------------------------
rfc-i.tcats.stop-spam.org ---------------------------------- RFC Ignorant Blacklist - For those that filter their incoming abuse address that results in spam complaints being rejected as spam. It is not needed for every domain to have an abuse/postmaster/admin account. If the owner is not acting as a host, does not run a mail server and is only operating a website, their is no "practical" reason for an abuse/postmaster or other role accounts. ----------------------------------
reject.tcats.stop-spam.org
Combined above Blacklists - that does not include the ones below. ---------------------------------- This one will likely be changing to fit what I am trying to do. ----------------------------------
New stuff going up.
spews.tcats.stop-spam.org ---------------------------------- Spam Prevention Early Warning System Blacklist - Similar to SPEWS.ORG but instead of escalating the IP addresses surrounding the spammer that is listed and then expanding that list to include other IP ranges of the provider. This list will start with the space listed in their space listed in ARIN/APNIC, etc.... SPEWS was absolutely great and I don't believe the spirit of SPEWS has been captured in apews.org or any other incarnation of the list. ----------------------------------
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Wow you waked up today in the morning and said to yourself: Damned, let's see if i can find some stupids that will pay my legal bills so let's start the FERGBL?
I give you some free clue:
Why should someone waste money to use the FERGBL, while there are so many free blocklists available?
>Advertisement for his new commercial blocklists ><FULLSNIPPED>
>Wow you waked up today in the morning and said to yourself: >Damned, let's see if i can find some stupids that will pay my legal >bills so let's start the FERGBL?
>I give you some free clue:
You really should charge for that advice.
>Why should someone waste money to use the FERGBL, while there are so >many free blocklists available?
Why should someone use it even if it were free? It's Ferg's - nothing original about it, the name isn't catchy, and it's run by Ferg. You couldn't pay most people to use it, Claus, much less get them to pay him for it. That's like asking ChickenBolen for mental health tips. Why would you want to?
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:10:11 -0800, "Susan" <shik...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:17:49 +0100, "Claus v. Wolfhausen" ><use-reply-to-mail...@remove-this.com> wrote:
>>The Fergiot posted:
>>Advertisement for his new commercial blocklists >><FULLSNIPPED>
>>Wow you waked up today in the morning and said to yourself: >>Damned, let's see if i can find some stupids that will pay my legal >>bills so let's start the FERGBL?
>>I give you some free clue:
>You really should charge for that advice.
>>Why should someone waste money to use the FERGBL, while there are so >>many free blocklists available?
>Why should someone use it even if it were free? It's Ferg's - nothing >original about it, the name isn't catchy, and it's run by Ferg. You >couldn't pay most people to use it, Claus, much less get them to pay >him for it. That's like asking ChickenBolen for mental health tips. >Why would you want to?
y'all need to pay attention to the details (and admire the APA style citations <g>)
"Why would you want to become a member of this list?
This list eventually will be in use by most Service Providers around the world."
Ferguson, M. (2009, November 2). Welcome to the carrot and the stick snowshoe blacklist project. Retrieved from http://tcats.stop-spam.org/sssbl/
Reason enough, I'm sure. I suggest a better question. Who are the 'we' ? The closest I could find is this:
"The stop-spam.org has brought together a variety of talented and dedicated individuals to keep ..."
Coming from you, I find interesting. Do you think attacking me will somehow ingratiate you to Susan?
This I have to witness.
> Advertisement for his new commercial blocklists > <FULLSNIPPED>
> Wow you waked up today in the morning and said to yourself:
"waked" should be "woke" or "awoke".
> Damned, let's see if i can find some stupids that will pay my legal > bills so let's start the FERGBL?
Learn this lesson from your new friends, I am content to be without such friends.
What legal bills exactly? I am glad to see you fitting in.
> I give you some free clue:
> Why should someone waste money to use the FERGBL, while there are so > many free blocklists available?
What am I charging for using any "blacklist"? Hmmm, nothing.... so these are all free except the whitelist.
Why would somebody create a new blacklist...? Could I have a differing opinion than others?
The RFC-Ignorant list is because I disagree with the reason(s) for listing domains on that list created and ran by Derek Balling.
Derek doesn't care what I think, it is his list not mine, so I create one that I think has reason(s) for adding domains to the list that I agree with.
The SnowShoe Spammer list(s) are way different from anything anybody is listing. I think Spamhaus is doing one but it took them at least two years to implement it.
Your list I have never taken seriously and so I never checked it out.
Vernon's list is actually great. But, his list can be gotten around through scripting.
I have massive amounts of information on a lot of spam senders, the wya spammers operate and so I figured I would use that information to help stop spam.
I really and truly don't care about what you think; that went out the window when I noted your post where you attempted to "buddy up" to Susan and others while they were openly hostile to you.
> Each list with the obvious exception of the botnet list and most of the > opt-out spammer list will be provided in both CIDR and incremental IP > format.
> 174.139.0.0/16
[???]
I guess this would be interesting... What does the query format look like? What is the response format expected?
... Or is it simply that you will be exporting this "list" as a flat file; via rsync, http-get, or P2P?
If you are pushing this thing out as flat file, it seems a little silly to list all of 174.139.0.0/16 per /32 ... Ya know, Net::CIDR::Lite has a pretty cheap purchase price as far as software goes.
> tcats.stop-spam.org > ---------------------------------- > The Carrot and the Stick Project > This is simply multiple blacklist with access to white lists. > ----------------------------------
... after some poking around, I have no idea how to query this list. Dig doesn't pull up a hit on the standard test address, there doesn't appear to be any delegation in the NSs, and I'm gonna take a guess here and say that Sonic (your provider) isn't going to host the this silly thing of yours.
> bnbl.tcats.stop-spam.org > ---------------------------------- > BotNet Blacklist - 100,000 IP addresses for botted machines already. > ----------------------------------
... What isn't self explanatory; is how to use it.
> rfc-i.tcats.stop-spam.org > ---------------------------------- > RFC Ignorant Blacklist - For those that filter their incoming abuse > address that results in spam complaints being rejected as spam. It is > not needed for every domain to have an abuse/postmaster/admin account. > If the owner is not acting as a host, does not run a mail server and is > only operating a website, their is no "practical" reason for an > abuse/postmaster or other role accounts. > ----------------------------------
... You never mentioned in your spec above that you would include domains... Or is it that you think listing all the IP addresses that a domain exists on is just as cheap space-wise as listing all of 174.139.0.0/16 via single IPs is.
> reject.tcats.stop-spam.org
> Combined above Blacklists - that does not include the ones below. > ---------------------------------- > This one will likely be changing to fit what I am trying to do. > ----------------------------------
[???]
If, as I understand it, you are pushing this thing out via flat files, then why bother to have a composite list?.. Or is it just that you think you need one. Because ya know, "all the *real* blacklists have a combined list!"
> New stuff going up.
> spews.tcats.stop-spam.org > ---------------------------------- > Spam Prevention Early Warning System Blacklist - Similar to SPEWS.ORG > but instead of escalating the IP addresses surrounding the spammer that > is listed and then expanding that list to include other IP ranges of the > provider. This list will start with the space listed in their space > listed in ARIN/APNIC, etc.... SPEWS was absolutely great and I don't > believe the spirit of SPEWS has been captured in apews.org or any other > incarnation of the list. > ----------------------------------
Ummm... I think you've missed the point of all of the *ews lists already by announcing that its you running the thing.
> sss-1.tcats.stop-spam.org - The affiliates and their IP space
Right... Don't you think the real anti-spam systems do this already.
> sss-2.tcats.stop-spam.org - Those that hire those in level 1 [Hydra > Media, Adknowledge, clickbooth, etc...]
... Because... Well shucks, I guess I don't really know. Is there spam being admitted from these IPs? Or do you expect all the end users of the world to download (via P2P) your lists and somehow (in a yet to be explained fashion) plug them into their browsers.
> sss-3.tcats.stop-spam.org - Those that hire those in level 2 [Some > intermediate companies that hired the ones > listed in level 3.
Level-3 lists level-2 and level-3... I can't wait to watch the Fergiot go into recursion hell.
> sss-4.tcats.stop-spam.org - Those that hire those in level 3 [The NY > Times, etc...]
... And this will effect spam, how?
> sss-5.tcats.stop-spam.org - Those that hire those in level 1 [Combined > all five lists]
Combined? I thought you just got done telling us that sss-2 listed those that hire sss-1, or is it that sss-2 is also combined?
Is the only reason that you bothered with sss-[2-5] is because you didn't want to come out and tell us that you intend to list world+dog, or is it that your spyware infested home computer might not be able to crunch 0.0.0.0/0, when it attempts to compute those into individual /32s, and that this wording is the wiggle room that you need to explain the "gaps" in coverage.
I'm gonna go ahead an declare that the SSS in the Fergiot's new DNSBL (sss-[1-5].tcats.stop-spam.org) really stands for "S00per S3kr1t Silly [DNSBL]" and that with his intention to list all of the world and its dog, that the only ones that will use the thing will be "four kooks and T[heir] Cats"
> rfc-i.tcats.stop-spam.org > ---------------------------------- > RFC Ignorant Blacklist - For those that filter their incoming abuse > address that results in spam complaints being rejected as spam. It is > not needed for every domain to have an abuse/postmaster/admin account. > If the owner is not acting as a host, does not run a mail server and > is only operating a website, their is no "practical" reason for an > abuse/postmaster or other role accounts. > ----------------------------------
Because every bad idea deserves a copycat.
> spews.tcats.stop-spam.org > ---------------------------------- > Spam Prevention Early Warning System Blacklist - Similar to SPEWS.ORG > but instead of escalating the IP addresses surrounding the spammer > that is listed and then expanding that list to include other IP ranges > of the provider. This list will start with the space listed in their > space listed in ARIN/APNIC, etc.... SPEWS was absolutely great and I > don't believe the spirit of SPEWS has been captured in apews.org or > any other incarnation of the list. > ----------------------------------
Because EVERY bad idea deserves a copycat.
> SnowShoe spammer Blacklist - Corporate America, spamming America... > sss-1.tcats.stop-spam.org - The affiliates and their IP space > sss-2.tcats.stop-spam.org - Those that hire those in level 1 [Hydra > Media, Adknowledge, clickbooth, etc...] > sss-3.tcats.stop-spam.org - Those that hire those in level 2 [Some > intermediate companies that hired the ones > listed in level 3. > sss-4.tcats.stop-spam.org - Those that hire those in level 3 [The NY > Times, etc...]
I'm fascinated by your apparent claims to be able to figure out three-deep contractual relationships, and further by your idea that anyone even remotely relevant would actually use a DNSBL that listed the New York Times.
Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: > Claus v. Wolfhausen wrote: > > Wow you waked up today in the morning and said to yourself: > "waked" should be "woke" or "awoke".
That's right, folks! "Grammar Lessons From Mark Ferguson", surpassed in popularity only by our other titles, "Networking Essentials From Mark Ferguson" and "How To Influence People, by Mark Ferguson", is available now at a store near you!
> > Damned, let's see if i can find some stupids that will pay my legal > > bills. > Learn this lesson from your new friends, I am content to be without > such friends.
This turns out to be very fortunate for you, since it seems readily apparent that you're pretty much destined to spend your life without any.
> What legal bills exactly?
The ones that you've alternatively claimed were either onerous or nonexistant. Is it a 'nonexistant' day again? Oh, that's right, it's an even-numbered day. Please ensure your system clock is accurate so that your posts can be adjusted for whether you were lying or telling the truth based on whether it was an even- or odd-numbered day of the month on the day that you posted.
> Why would somebody create a new blacklist...? Could I have a > differing opinion than others?
Yes. In fact, based upon your past history, I would think that your opinion would probably be that everyone should lick doorknobs and wear their underwear on the outside. Still, it seems rather optimistic that people will adjust their email infrastructure to take those opinions into account.
> The RFC-Ignorant list is because I disagree with the reason(s) for > listing domains on that list created and ran by Derek Balling.
This is hardly shocking. Most sensible people do. However, the solution is not "create a clone of RFCI", the solution is "hit Derek Balling with a salmon until the poor bastard either acquires some sense, or dies".
> The SnowShoe Spammer list(s) are way different from anything anybody > is listing. I think Spamhaus is doing one but it took them at least > two years to implement it.
And it's only taken you what, forty? I think if people are considering taking the opinion of Spamhaus versus taking the opinion of you, you'll be lucky to get the market segment of "illiterate non-computer users".
> Vernon's list is actually great. But, his list can be gotten around > through scripting.
...which you'd have to ask someone to do and then send to you, because you're incapable of actually doing that scripting yourself?
> I have massive amounts of information on a lot of spam senders,
'massive' as compared to what? The amount of information your cat has?
> the wya spammers operate and so I figured I would use that information > to help stop spam.
Good luck with that, chimpy.
> I really and truly don't care about what you think
Obviously not true, or you wouldn't be responding to his posts.
> I will pop some popcorn and watch.
Try putting it in the microwave instead of the VCR this time.
> Ferguson, M. (2009, November 2). Welcome to the carrot and the stick > snowshoe blacklist project. Retrieved from > http://tcats.stop-spam.org/sssbl/
... I just looked at that page, and not believing the Fergiot could write technical instructions to configure an MTA that he has never seen, so I went looking;
At this point, I'm having a hard time deciding if Returnpath issuing a DMCA takedown letter on tcats.stop-spam.org would be funny or just sad... Nah, it would be funny!
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:53:52 -0600, "JustSomeGuy[sm]"
<"JustSomeGuy[sm]"@JustSomeGuy.sm> wrote: >Mark Ferguson wrote: >> This is going up.
>> Each list with the obvious exception of the botnet list and most of the >> opt-out spammer list will be provided in both CIDR and incremental IP >> format.
>> 174.139.0.0/16
>[???]
>I guess this would be interesting... What does the query format look >like?
It looks like crap?
>What is the response format expected?
Duh?
-- An army of asses led by a lion is better than an army of lions led by an ass. George Washington
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:21:12 -0600, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote: >Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: >> Claus v. Wolfhausen wrote: >> > Wow you waked up today in the morning and said to yourself: >> "waked" should be "woke" or "awoke".
>That's right, folks! "Grammar Lessons From Mark Ferguson", surpassed in >popularity only by our other titles, "Networking Essentials From Mark >Ferguson" and "How To Influence People, by Mark Ferguson", is available >now at a store near you!
Yeah, because Ferg's German is superior to Claus' English.
-- Say no to trolls, say yes to trollops! -A certain UK Abuse Desk Peep
huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote: > Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: > I'm fascinated by your apparent claims to be able to figure out > three-deep contractual relationships, and further by your idea that > anyone even remotely relevant would actually use a DNSBL that listed the > New York Times.
Why would the NY Times use spammers????
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The IP space for the domains is [69.64.95.119] abac.net, the IP of the redirects are adknowledge and the landing page is rackspace.com.
If you think I am wrong, don't use the list. I don't care if you do or not Gary, you are a moron and morons do as they do.
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OrgName: Rackspace.com, Ltd. OrgID: RSPC Address: 9725 Datapoint Drive Address: Suite 100 City: San Antonio StateProv: TX PostalCode: 78229 Country: US
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:21:12 -0600, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote: >> The SnowShoe Spammer list(s) are way different from anything anybody >> is listing. I think Spamhaus is doing one but it took them at least >> two years to implement it.
>And it's only taken you what, forty? I think if people are considering >taking the opinion of Spamhaus versus taking the opinion of you, you'll >be lucky to get the market segment of "illiterate non-computer users".
Well, I'm sure Spamhaus' snowshoe list will actually work.
>> Vernon's list is actually great. But, his list can be gotten around >> through scripting.
"The work is part of the doctrine "attorney work product" it is protected. Our work is confidential; all work is done in house, downloaded directly from your server and the evidence uploaded to your server or the server of your attorney. ... This means the work we do for your attorney in preperation for the case is protected under the doctrine "attorney Work product"."
Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: > huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote: > > Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: I'm fascinated by your > > apparent claims to be able to figure out three-deep contractual > > relationships, and further by your idea that anyone even remotely > > relevant would actually use a DNSBL that listed the New York Times. > Why would the NY Times use spammers????
That you'd even ask the question is somewhat illustrative of my point.
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> spam sent from a domain [piggybanksaving.info] registered with > "Domains by Proxy, Inc." and cloaked, then redirected through a domain > registered to an entity identifying itself as "Extravagant Media Inc" > with multiple physical addresses but hosted in Adknowledge IP space > and finally redirecting back to the client pay load site hosted by > rack space.
The New York Times is hosted by Rackspace?
> If you think I am wrong, don't use the list.
I've always been one for popular opinions.
> I don't care if you do or not Gary, you are a moron and morons do as > they do.
Y'know, of all of the stupid things you say, this one is my favorite. If you're uncomfortable with the LSAT, pick some other standardized test, say, the subject matter GRE of your choosing. Let's find out who the real moron is.
[ snip two pages of things that also don't appear to have a hell of a lot to do with the New York Times, but also demonstrate that Mark has finally learned the secrets of the crafty and elusive 'whois' command ]
your friend <dev.n...@example.com> wrote: > "The work is part of the doctrine "attorney work product" it is > protected. Our work is confidential; all work is done in house, > downloaded directly from your server and the evidence uploaded to your > server or the server of your attorney. > ... > This means the work we do for your attorney in preperation for the > case is protected under the doctrine "attorney Work product"." > Ferguson, M. (2009, November 2). The Confindentiality of our work . > Retrieved from http://www.stop-spam.org/confindentiality.php
"As your attorney, I advise you to begin drinking heavily"
huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote: > Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: > [ snip two pages of things that also don't appear to have a hell of a > lot to do with the New York Times, but also demonstrate that Mark has > finally learned the secrets of the crafty and elusive 'whois' command ]
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:10:11 -0800, Susan wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:17:49 +0100, "Claus v. Wolfhausen" > <use-reply-to-mail...@remove-this.com> wrote:
>>The Fergiot posted: > Why > would you want to?
Because the answer is likely to be hilarious in it's idiocy?
-- Dude: he's gonna wake up tomorrow morning and still be Mark Ferguson, which is a loss in any sense of the word. Perhaps if he woke up one morning to discover that he'd turned into a giant cockroach, that would be something, but I don't have a lot of faith that he's capable of that kind of self-improvement. -- Huey Callison, October 11, 2009
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:32:41 -0800, your friend wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:10:11 -0800, "Susan" <shik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:17:49 +0100, "Claus v. Wolfhausen" >><use-reply-to-mail...@remove-this.com> wrote:
>>>The Fergiot posted:
>>>Advertisement for his new commercial blocklists <FULLSNIPPED>
>>>Wow you waked up today in the morning and said to yourself: Damned, >>>let's see if i can find some stupids that will pay my legal bills so >>>let's start the FERGBL?
>>>I give you some free clue:
>>You really should charge for that advice.
>>>Why should someone waste money to use the FERGBL, while there are so >>>many free blocklists available?
>>Why should someone use it even if it were free? It's Ferg's - nothing >>original about it, the name isn't catchy, and it's run by Ferg. You >>couldn't pay most people to use it, Claus, much less get them to pay him >>for it. That's like asking ChickenBolen for mental health tips. Why >>would you want to?
> y'all need to pay attention to the details (and admire the APA style > citations <g>)
> "Why would you want to become a member of this list?
> This list eventually will be in use by most Service Providers > around the world."
> Ferguson, M. (2009, November 2). Welcome to the carrot and the stick > snowshoe blacklist project. Retrieved from > http://tcats.stop-spam.org/sssbl/
Has anyone a doubt that The Ferg will try to eat the stick and then beat himself with the carrot?
-- Dude: he's gonna wake up tomorrow morning and still be Mark Ferguson, which is a loss in any sense of the word. Perhaps if he woke up one morning to discover that he'd turned into a giant cockroach, that would be something, but I don't have a lot of faith that he's capable of that kind of self-improvement. -- Huey Callison, October 11, 2009
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:05:37 -0600, huey.callison wrote: > Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: >> huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: I'm fascinated by your >> > apparent claims to be able to figure out three-deep contractual >> > relationships, and further by your idea that anyone even remotely >> > relevant would actually use a DNSBL that listed the New York Times. >> Why would the NY Times use spammers????
> That you'd even ask the question is somewhat illustrative of my point.
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> The New York Times is hosted by Rackspace?
>> If you think I am wrong, don't use the list.
> I've always been one for popular opinions.
>> I don't care if you do or not Gary, you are a moron and morons do as >> they do.
> Y'know, of all of the stupid things you say, this one is my favorite. If > you're uncomfortable with the LSAT, pick some other standardized test, > say, the subject matter GRE of your choosing. Let's find out who the > real moron is.
> [ snip two pages of things that also don't appear to have a hell of a > lot to do with the New York Times, but also demonstrate that Mark has > finally learned the secrets of the crafty and elusive 'whois' command > ]
That post was really shades of Lamie.
-- Dude: he's gonna wake up tomorrow morning and still be Mark Ferguson, which is a loss in any sense of the word. Perhaps if he woke up one morning to discover that he'd turned into a giant cockroach, that would be something, but I don't have a lot of faith that he's capable of that kind of self-improvement. -- Huey Callison, October 11, 2009
> Has anyone a doubt that The Ferg will try to eat the stick and then beat > himself with the carrot?
You know... I'm ashamed that I didn't think of that.
So here we are, the second day after Ferguson announced his shinny [side out] new DNSBL and it is still failing for technical reasons;
; <<>> DiG 9.5.0a6 <<>> +trace 2.0.0.127.reject.tcats.stop-spam.org [...] stop-spam.org. 86400 IN NS a.auth-ns.sonic.net. stop-spam.org. 86400 IN NS b.auth-ns.sonic.net. stop-spam.org. 86400 IN NS c.auth-ns.sonic.net. ;; Received 119 bytes from 199.249.112.1#53(A2.ORG.AFILIAS-NST.INFO) in 67 ms
stop-spam.org. 3600 IN SOA ns1.sonic.net. hostmaster.sonic.net. 2009110223 3600 300 1209600 3600 ;; Received 114 bytes from 64.142.88.72#53(b.auth-ns.sonic.net) in 235 ms
Are there any bets on when Mark Ferguson will actually figure out how to implement this "the carrot and the stick" DNSBL? Or is it simply, as you put it, that he will end up committing suicide by vegetable, beating himself to death with the carrot after he has eaten the stick.
> IN NS b.auth-ns.sonic.net. stop-spam.org. 86400 IN NS > c.auth-ns.sonic.net. ;; Received 119 bytes from > 199.249.112.1#53(A2.ORG.AFILIAS-NST.INFO) in 67 ms
> stop-spam.org. 3600 IN SOA ns1.sonic.net.
hostmaster.sonic.net.
> 2009110223 3600 300 1209600 3600 > ;; Received 114 bytes from 64.142.88.72#53(b.auth-ns.sonic.net) in 235 > ms
> Are there any bets on when Mark Ferguson will actually figure out how to > implement this "the carrot and the stick" DNSBL? Or is it simply, as > you put it, that he will end up committing suicide by vegetable, beating > himself to death with the carrot after he has eaten the stick.
I am unconvinced he will have success in eating the stick. I suspect that he's going to find it too wide to fit in his mouth, failing to realize that he needs to turn it around 90 degrees and start at the end. If he does manage to figure out a rotation of 90 degrees, it'll certainly be on the wrong axis and he'll just whack himself in the forehead and likely knock himself out.
-- Dude: he's gonna wake up tomorrow morning and still be Mark Ferguson, which is a loss in any sense of the word. Perhaps if he woke up one morning to discover that he'd turned into a giant cockroach, that would be something, but I don't have a lot of faith that he's capable of that kind of self-improvement. -- Huey Callison, October 11, 2009
Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: > huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote: > > Mark Ferguson <ab...@stop-spam.org> wrote: > > [ snip two pages of things that also don't appear to have a hell of > > a lot to do with the New York Times, but also demonstrate that > > Mark has finally learned the secrets of the crafty and elusive > > 'whois' command ] > Yes, you have punked yourself once again.
...but not, apparently, the ability to read and comprehend simple English.
> I am unconvinced he will have success in eating the stick. I suspect that > he's going to find it too wide to fit in his mouth, failing to realize > that he needs to turn it around 90 degrees and start at the end. If he > does manage to figure out a rotation of 90 degrees, it'll certainly be on > the wrong axis and he'll just whack himself in the forehead and likely > knock himself out.
You are welcome to borrow and amend my sig. should you so desire.
-- Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov became depressed after his prophesy about the world ending in May 2008, that he tried to commit suicide by hitting himself on the head with a log.
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:32:41 -0800, your friend <dev.n...@example.com> wrote:
>y'all need to pay attention to the details (and admire the APA style >citations <g>)
> "Why would you want to become a member of this list?
> This list eventually will be in use by most Service Providers >around the world."
>Ferguson, M. (2009, November 2). Welcome to the carrot and the stick >snowshoe blacklist project. Retrieved from >http://tcats.stop-spam.org/sssbl/
The only thing I can figure out is he ripped the hookers at the gas station off for some crack and he's been smoking it. Why else would he make the claim that:
>This list eventually will be in use by most Service Providers >around the world."
?!
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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