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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz  
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 Más opciones 6 nov 2009, 10:07
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De: "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamt...@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Fecha: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:07:39 -0500
Local: Vie 6 nov 2009 10:07
Asunto: Re: More dotmailer spam....
In <hd0vf9$5a...@news.eternal-september.org>, on 11/06/2009
   at 10:57 AM, Spamtastic Spastic <n...@null.org> said:

>As with any ESP providing services to commercial bulkers, the likelyhood
>is the mail is unwanted - but is tolerated as long as it is opt in.
>Crossing that divide into harvested address spam land twice in a week has
> them lined up to enter the great IPTables 'goodbye' list. I'm starting
>to  think that blocking all ESP's in this way will reduce unwanted
>commercial  mail significantly.

It's not about content. If I subscribe to a product announcement list, I
am guarantied to receive unwanted e-mail, because not all of the relevant
products will be of interest to me. Even if I have a profile that limits
the permission to a single model of a single product, I'm bound to see
reports of issues relevant only to specific engineering levels. Those
unwanted e-mails are not spam, because they are included in what I
consented to.

Now, if I signed up for announcements of printers and they send me a disk
announcement, that is spam. Not because I might not need another disk
drive right now, but because I didn't consent to it.

The problem with the ESP's is that they have a vested interest in
believing[1] customers who lie about their lists being opt-in.

[1] Or at least pretending to believe

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