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I used to have one of these (it was later donated to Microsoft's test lab), but I don't remember. It's usually something like holding down the On Line or Form Feed button while turning on the power. It can't hurt to experiment; you're not going to waste any supplies if it doesn't work.
On Nov 2, 10:13 am, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I used to have one of these (it was later donated to Microsoft's test lab), > but I don't remember. It's usually something like holding down the On Line > or Form Feed button while turning on the power. It can't hurt to experiment; > you're not going to waste any supplies if it doesn't work.
THANK YOU!
It was indeed hold down the FF button and cycle the power.
Found a 'dead' jet, but the constant printing on page 3 [landscape mode], must have awakened it.
On Nov 2, 11:15 am, Meat Plow <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:13:50 -0800, "William Sommerwerck" > <grizzledgee...@comcast.net>wrote:
> >I used to have one of these (it was later donated to Microsoft's test lab), > >but I don't remember. It's usually something like holding down the On Line > >or Form Feed button while turning on the power. It can't hurt to experiment; > >you're not going to waste any supplies if it doesn't work.
> What about going to the printer driver and use the Print Test Page > function?
I think that prints the Microsoft page, not the one that exercises all the printer's functions.
On Nov 2, 12:59 pm, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
> Robert Macy wrote: > > Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one > > built in that tests all the jets.
> > Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?
> > Operator's and/or Service?
> Wow ! Someone else who still has & uses a Deskjet 500. I've had mine > from new just as they came out. Must be getting on for 25 years or so > now.
> -- > Best Regards: > Baron.
Yes! Bought it new, also. Still has the highest contrast ratio for me.
I did run across somebody [in TX?] that refurbishes them for sale, but they wanted more than $260 at a time when most printers are going for $40, didn't make sense to get another one. Instead, I just waited.
As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.
Robert Macy wrote: > On Nov 2, 12:59 pm, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: >> Robert Macy wrote: >> > Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one >> > built in that tests all the jets.
>> > Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?
>> > Operator's and/or Service?
>> Wow ! Someone else who still has & uses a Deskjet 500. I've had >> mine from new just as they came out. Must be getting on for 25 years >> or so now.
>> -- >> Best Regards: >> Baron.
> Yes! Bought it new, also. Still has the highest contrast ratio for > me.
Agreed ! Very good print quality. Pity the ink carts are not available anymore. I've been refilling mine for several years now.
> I did run across somebody [in TX?] that refurbishes them for sale, but > they wanted more than $260 at a time when most printers are going for > $40, didn't make sense to get another one. Instead, I just waited.
Quite ! I wouldn't pay more than $10 or $15 for one, particularly when they get thrown out by firms clearing the IT stock room.
> As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson > C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.
Watch the Epson ! The ink dries very rapidly in the print heads and they are part of the printer and not the cartridge. I've seen new demonstration machines dumped because the ink has dried in the print heads.
> Robert Macy wrote: > > On Nov 2, 12:59 pm, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: > >> Robert Macy wrote: > >> > Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one > >> > built in that tests all the jets.
> >> > Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?
> >> > Operator's and/or Service?
> >> Wow ! Someone else who still has & uses a Deskjet 500. I've had > >> mine from new just as they came out. Must be getting on for 25 years > >> or so now.
> >> -- > >> Best Regards: > >> Baron.
> > Yes! Bought it new, also. Still has the highest contrast ratio for > > me.
> Agreed ! Very good print quality. Pity the ink carts are not available > anymore. I've been refilling mine for several years now.
> > I did run across somebody [in TX?] that refurbishes them for sale, but > > they wanted more than $260 at a time when most printers are going for > > $40, didn't make sense to get another one. Instead, I just waited.
> Quite ! I wouldn't pay more than $10 or $15 for one, particularly when > they get thrown out by firms clearing the IT stock room.
> > As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson > > C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.
> Watch the Epson ! The ink dries very rapidly in the print heads and > they are part of the printer and not the cartridge. I've seen new > demonstration machines dumped because the ink has dried in the print > heads.
> -- > Best Regards: > Baron.
Thanks for the 'heads up'
I have not been happy with it. Cartridge dries out way too fast. Have to use everyday, or waste ink to recharge, Wait, using everyday wastes ink, too. So no way to gain. Plus, the cartridges [the ones easy to get, cost $30 to $50!!!] Isn't that the price of a desk top printer?
So,I'm back to "that's a niceprinter, but can't use it. "
What is the best priced, high contrast printer out there? Of course long lived.
Digging a bit deeper: <http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docnam...> Print a self-test page. Turn the printer off and hold the Font button down on the printer's Control Panel; then turn the printer on and release the Font button after the printer picks up paper.
>Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual? >Operator's and/or Service?
I have a customer that still uses his Deskjet 500. I must have refilled his 5 black cartridges at least 10 times each and it never clogs. The trick is to refill it BEFORE you run out of ink. For some reason, he likes the printer and insists that I keep it running, even though I have better, faster, and cheaper alternatives. I don't know what he sees in this printer. Maybe it's the boxy look.
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
<m...@california.com> wrote: >As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson >C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.
I retired my HP LaserJet 5m several months ago. It's basically a LaserJet 4 Plus in a nicer box and faster raster engine. 600 dpi is kinda crude as most anything you buy these days will do 1200 dpi. My main complaint is that the power save feature didn't really turn off the printer. It sucked power all the time. Still, it was cheap, reliable, fairly easy to maintain, but slow, crude, a power hog, and a bad habit of paper jamming at the back rollers. I replaced it with an HP Laserjet 2200dtn (double sided, 2 trays, network card, 1200dpi) and am living happily ever after.
I also had an Epson Stylus C60 for a few days. It leaked ink all over the place, no matter what I did to prevent it. Brand new, with supplied ink carts. I later ran into the same problem with a customers C60. I gave up. It's not a common problem, but I seem to find it all too often. <http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/13409>
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:25:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy ><m...@california.com> wrote:
>>As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson >>C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.
>I retired my HP LaserJet 5m several months ago.
Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and will print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my high speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.
>It's basically a >LaserJet 4 Plus in a nicer box and faster raster engine. 600 dpi is >kinda crude as most anything you buy these days will do 1200 dpi. My >main complaint is that the power save feature didn't really turn off >the printer. It sucked power all the time. Still, it was cheap, >reliable, fairly easy to maintain, but slow, crude, a power hog, and a >bad habit of paper jamming at the back rollers. I replaced it with an >HP Laserjet 2200dtn (double sided, 2 trays, network card, 1200dpi) and >am living happily ever after.
>I also had an Epson Stylus C60 for a few days. It leaked ink all over >the place, no matter what I did to prevent it. Brand new, with >supplied ink carts. I later ran into the same problem with a >customers C60. I gave up. It's not a common problem, but I seem to >find it all too often. ><http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/13409>
> Digging a bit deeper: > <http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docnam...> > Print a self-test page. Turn the printer off and hold the Font button > down on the printer's Control Panel; then turn the printer on and > release the Font button after the printer picks up paper.
> >Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual? > >Operator's and/or Service?
> I have a customer that still uses his Deskjet 500. I must have > refilled his 5 black cartridges at least 10 times each and it never > clogs. The trick is to refill it BEFORE you run out of ink. For some > reason, he likes the printer and insists that I keep it running, even > though I have better, faster, and cheaper alternatives. I don't know > what he sees in this printer. Maybe it's the boxy look.
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:56:17 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgee...@comcast.net> wrote: >> Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ >> II) sometimes.
>Stop, you're making me cry. I had an LJ II, then a III, both with PostScript >cartridges. I'm still using the 4M I bought over 15 years ago.
About 3 years ago, I discovered that only a few of my customers were still running HP LJII and LJIII printers. So, I cleaned up the few I had in storage and tried to sell them. No takers. So, I tried to give them away. No takers. So, I recycled the mess, keeping only the repair parts collection and toner carts. I did the same with HP LJ4 and LJ5 printers about 6 months ago. The office and storage space was costing me more than the printers were worth. I even left them by the roadway with a "free" sign, and found that someone had added a extra Apple LW2 printer to the pile.
Most of my customers are currently using HP LJ4000/4100 or 4200/4300 series printers. They have their own collection of problems, but are much faster and more economical to operate (16,000 pages per toner cart on the 4300). The HP LJ4200 will do 16 to 53 lb paper, so 80 lb won't work. Speed, smaller footprint, and not having to listen to the fan cycling all day are the main advantages. Multiple trays, double sided printing, ethernet, and web admin are other benefits.
> About 3 years ago, I discovered that only a few of my customers > were still running HP LJII and LJIII printers. So, I cleaned up the > few I had in storage and tried to sell them. No takers. So, I tried > to give them away. No takers.
Anyone who wouldn't take a working 4M for free is nuts. You'd be getting a high-quality PostScript printer for the cost of a new cartridge.
> So, I recycled the mess, keeping only the repair parts collection > and toner carts. I did the same with HP LJ4 and LJ5 printers about > 6 months ago. The office and storage space was costing me more > than the printers were worth. I even left them by the roadway with a > "free" sign, and found that someone had added a extra Apple LW2 > printer to the pile.
The 4M is a great printer. I recently printed out a discount coupon with extremely small fonts (they had to be around 2pt) and the quality was amazing.
They go for very little on eBay. I doubt you could find a new printer that good, for that price. The only problem is that not nearly as fast as "modern" printer.
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:56:17 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
> <grizzledgee...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ > >> II) sometimes.
> >Stop, you're making me cry. I had an LJ II, then a III, both with PostScript > >cartridges. I'm still using the 4M I bought over 15 years ago.
> About 3 years ago, I discovered that only a few of my customers were > still running HP LJII and LJIII printers. So, I cleaned up the few I > had in storage and tried to sell them. No takers. So, I tried to > give them away. No takers. So, I recycled the mess, keeping only the > repair parts collection and toner carts. I did the same with HP LJ4 > and LJ5 printers about 6 months ago. The office and storage space was > costing me more than the printers were worth. I even left them by the > roadway with a "free" sign, and found that someone had added a extra > Apple LW2 printer to the pile.
> Most of my customers are currently using HP LJ4000/4100 or 4200/4300 > series printers. They have their own collection of problems, but are > much faster and more economical to operate (16,000 pages per toner > cart on the 4300). The HP LJ4200 will do 16 to 53 lb paper, so 80 lb > won't work. Speed, smaller footprint, and not having to listen to the > fan cycling all day are the main advantages. Multiple trays, double > sided printing, ethernet, and web admin are other benefits.
Robert Macy wrote: > On Nov 2, 1:50 pm, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: >> Robert Macy wrote: >> > On Nov 2, 12:59 pm, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> >> > wrote: >> >> Robert Macy wrote: >> >> > Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the >> >> > one built in that tests all the jets.
>> >> > Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?
>> >> > Operator's and/or Service?
>> >> Wow ! Someone else who still has & uses a Deskjet 500. I've had >> >> mine from new just as they came out. Must be getting on for 25 >> >> years or so now.
>> >> -- >> >> Best Regards: >> >> Baron.
>> > Yes! Bought it new, also. Still has the highest contrast ratio >> > for me.
>> Agreed ! Very good print quality. Pity the ink carts are not >> available anymore. I've been refilling mine for several years now.
>> > I did run across somebody [in TX?] that refurbishes them for sale, >> > but they wanted more than $260 at a time when most printers are >> > going for $40, didn't make sense to get another one. Instead, I >> > just waited.
>> Quite ! I wouldn't pay more than $10 or $15 for one, particularly >> when they get thrown out by firms clearing the IT stock room.
>> > As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an >> > Epson C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.
>> Watch the Epson ! The ink dries very rapidly in the print heads and >> they are part of the printer and not the cartridge. I've seen new >> demonstration machines dumped because the ink has dried in the print >> heads.
>> -- >> Best Regards: >> Baron.
> Thanks for the 'heads up'
> I have not been happy with it. Cartridge dries out way too fast. > Have to use everyday
Thats about the only way to get good service life out of it.
> , or waste ink to recharge, Wait, using everyday > wastes ink, too. So no way to gain. Plus, the cartridges [the ones > easy to get, cost $30 to $50!!!] Isn't that the price of a desk top > printer?
Ouch ! C60 carts can be had very cheaply in the UK along with a chip reseting tool.
> So,I'm back to "that's a niceprinter, but can't use it. "
> What is the best priced, high contrast printer out there? Of course > long lived.
Apart from the DJ500 my other two printers are both Samsung Laser. One is the ML1440 and the other is a MCX4200 multifunction printer copier. All three are fully supported by Linux.
David Nebenzahl wrote: > On 11/2/2009 12:59 PM Baron spake thus:
>> Robert Macy wrote:
>>> Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one >>> built in that tests all the jets.
>>> Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?
>>> Operator's and/or Service?
>> Wow ! Someone else who still has & uses a Deskjet 500. I've had >> mine >> from new just as they came out. Must be getting on for 25 years or >> so now.
> So can you tell me how your printer compares to mine, a DeskJet 932C? > I have the sneaking suspicion that mine is not as good, but really > have no idea.
Its practically the same printer ! But the 500 only has a single black (colour, if you change the ink) cartridge. The 932C I think has USB as well as parallel port inputs. As far as print quality is concerned yours should be better having 600 dpi as against 300 dpi for the DJ500 plus colour. The DJ500C could do colour but you had to change cartridges. I belive it was the DJ520 that had both black and colour cartridges in the same carriage. The DJ500 also had an RS232 serial port as well. Very handy when attached to a "Netware PS" !
On Nov 3, 1:48 pm, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
> Robert Macy wrote: > > What is the best priced, high contrast printer out there? Of course > > long lived.
> Apart from the DJ500 my other two printers are both Samsung Laser. One > is the ML1440 and the other is a MCX4200 multifunction printer copier. > All three are fully supported by Linux.
> -- > Best Regards: > Baron.
Thanks for that recommendation.
Wow, Korea really knows how to make products. That makes 3 Samsung products [printer, phone, and washing machine] and 1 Genesis Coupe [auto] I'd like to buy. As soon as I have the money. But, others must be buying, so K's economy ought to be doing well, eh?
> Print a self-test page. Turn the printer off and hold the Font button > down on the printer's Control Panel; then turn the printer on and > release the Font button after the printer picks up paper.
>>Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual? >>Operator's and/or Service?
> I have a customer that still uses his Deskjet 500. I must have > refilled his 5 black cartridges at least 10 times each and it never > clogs. The trick is to refill it BEFORE you run out of ink. For some > reason, he likes the printer and insists that I keep it running, even > though I have better, faster, and cheaper alternatives. I don't know > what he sees in this printer. Maybe it's the boxy look.
Absolutely reliable, easy to load paper, easy to repair, built in shelf to stand your paper punch, stapler etc on. :-)
PeterD wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:25:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> > wrote:
>>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy >><m...@california.com> wrote:
>>>As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson >>>C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.
>>I retired my HP LaserJet 5m several months ago.
> Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ > II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and will > print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my high > speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.
Wasn't that made by HP for Apple ? The only straight paper path ink jet that I know of was the HP DJ400, DJ420. That would do 80lb card stock.
>>It's basically a >>LaserJet 4 Plus in a nicer box and faster raster engine. 600 dpi is >>kinda crude as most anything you buy these days will do 1200 dpi. My >>main complaint is that the power save feature didn't really turn off >>the printer. It sucked power all the time. Still, it was cheap, >>reliable, fairly easy to maintain, but slow, crude, a power hog, and a >>bad habit of paper jamming at the back rollers. I replaced it with an >>HP Laserjet 2200dtn (double sided, 2 trays, network card, 1200dpi) and >>am living happily ever after.
>>I also had an Epson Stylus C60 for a few days. It leaked ink all over >>the place, no matter what I did to prevent it. Brand new, with >>supplied ink carts. I later ran into the same problem with a >>customers C60. I gave up. It's not a common problem, but I seem to >>find it all too often. >><http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/13409>
<baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: >> Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ >> II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and will >> print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my high >> speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job. >Wasn't that made by HP for Apple ?
No. The Apple LaserWriter II NT/NTX was made by Canon for Apple. The major SX series mechanical parts are identical to the HP LJII. The DC contoller board is the same. However, the plastic case, status lights, button, i/o, and image processor board (controller) are all very different. <http://www.printerworks.com/Catalogs/SX-Catalog/SX-AppLW-IINT.html>
>The only straight paper path ink jet that I know of was the HP DJ400, >DJ420. That would do 80lb card stock.
Any and all inkjet plotters have a straight paper path. If you want to print on cardboard, an inkjet plotter is the way to do it. However, they tend to be more expensive than an ordinary inkjet printer.
Most (not all) inkjet printers that claim to print on photo grade paper, will have a fairly straight paper path. It's usually done by removing a panel in the rear of the printer. They need a staight through path because thick photo paper just hates to be curled around a roller. The clay coated surface will sometimes crack on really thick and glossy photo paper.
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