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>> So can you tell me how your printer compares to mine, a DeskJet 932C? >> I have the sneaking suspicion that mine is not as good, but really >> have no idea.
> Its practically the same printer ! But the 500 only has a single black > (colour, if you change the ink) cartridge. The 932C I think has USB as > well as parallel port inputs. As far as print quality is concerned > yours should be better having 600 dpi as against 300 dpi for the DJ500 > plus colour. The DJ500C could do colour but you had to change > cartridges. I belive it was the DJ520 that had both black and colour > cartridges in the same carriage.
Yes, the 932C has USB, which was how I was using it. Didn't know it was that good; I got it because it was about the cheapest thing available at the time (ca. 2000).
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PeterD wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:25:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> > wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy >> <m...@california.com> wrote:
>>> As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson >>> C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet. >> I retired my HP LaserJet 5m several months ago.
> Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ > II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and will > print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my high > speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.
That's venerable Canon SX engine, which is built like a tank & should last forever if you look after it. They're nice machines to work on too, unlike many of the newer types. I got rid of my own one (built from scrapped machines) when I moved from a big place to a small place. I now run an HP 4M+ with PostScript, which is nearly as solid.
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William Sommerwerck wrote: >> About 3 years ago, I discovered that only a few of my customers >> were still running HP LJII and LJIII printers. So, I cleaned up the >> few I had in storage and tried to sell them. No takers. So, I tried >> to give them away. No takers.
> Anyone who wouldn't take a working 4M for free is nuts. You'd be getting a > high-quality PostScript printer for the cost of a new cartridge.
Indeed. And cartridges are still readily available for reasonable prices.
> The 4M is a great printer. I recently printed out a discount coupon with > extremely small fonts (they had to be around 2pt) and the quality was > amazing.
<nods> The variable dot size works really well.
> They go for very little on eBay. I doubt you could find a new printer that > good, for that price. The only problem is that not nearly as fast as > "modern" printer.
Oh, they still hold up pretty well, & they won't fall to pieces after a few years the way that modern units will.
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>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:25:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> >> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy >>> <m...@california.com> wrote:
>>>> As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson >>>> C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet. >>> I retired my HP LaserJet 5m several months ago. >> Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ >> II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and will >> print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my high >> speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.
> Wasn't that made by HP for Apple ?
No, Canon. HP, Apple & Brother all used the Canon SX engine for 'their' printers. (Canon's own model numbers using that engine were the LBP8II & III.)
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:03:30 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy <m...@california.com> wrote: >Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one >built in that tests all the jets. >Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual? >Operator's and/or Service?
perhaps a museum?
Why not spend the $25 and get something made in this century? Limited to printers supported by windows 3.1?
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:08:26 +0000, Baron > <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
>>> Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ >>> II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and >>> will print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my >>> high speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.
>>Wasn't that made by HP for Apple ?
> No. The Apple LaserWriter II NT/NTX was made by Canon for Apple. The > major SX series mechanical parts are identical to the HP LJII. The DC > contoller board is the same.
>>The only straight paper path ink jet that I know of was the HP DJ400, >>DJ420. That would do 80lb card stock.
> Any and all inkjet plotters have a straight paper path. If you want > to print on cardboard, an inkjet plotter is the way to do it. However, > they tend to be more expensive than an ordinary inkjet printer.
> Most (not all) inkjet printers that claim to print on photo grade > paper, will have a fairly straight paper path. It's usually done by > removing a panel in the rear of the printer. They need a staight > through path because thick photo paper just hates to be curled around > a roller. The clay coated surface will sometimes crack on really > thick and glossy photo paper.
>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:25:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann >>> <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy >>>> <m...@california.com> wrote:
>>>>> As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an >>>>> Epson C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet. >>>> I retired my HP LaserJet 5m several months ago. >>> Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ >>> II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and >>> will print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my >>> high speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.
>> Wasn't that made by HP for Apple ?
> No, Canon. HP, Apple & Brother all used the Canon SX engine for > 'their' printers. (Canon's own model numbers using that engine were > the LBP8II & III.)
On Nov 3, 8:21 pm, AZ Nomad <aznoma...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:03:30 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy <m...@california.com> wrote: > >Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one > >built in that tests all the jets. > >Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual? > >Operator's and/or Service?
> perhaps a museum?
> Why not spend the $25 and get something made in this century? > Limited to printers supported by windows 3.1?
On Nov 4, 4:21 am, baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: ...snip...
> It never occurred to me to print on anything other than paper or card > stock. > Thanks for the interesting links. :-)
> -- > Best Regards: > Baron.
Might be interested in seeing the FLATTEST, and most unique, inkjet target: a layer of plaster of paris. The special ink sets the particles sprayed and unsprayed particles are sacrificial, to be used another time.
This printer puts down a thin layer of plaster of paris, sprays that layer, then new layer of powder is added and sprayed until a 3D rendering is completed. I've see 6 inch tall items.
Most incredible of all, I've seen this "Printer" make operating gear sets that are impossible to assemble! The gears all spin intermeshed, but it would NOT be possible to assemble such a structure, it just has to come into existence - operating.
Fascinating, that the 'rinter' has better than 3 mil tolerance and the inks are colored.
[disclaimer: not associated with this firm, nor gain from discussing it]
here in the Bay Area it's repped by Sales, Northern California, and Nevada Peak Solutions LLC 900 Cherry Av, Suite 300 San Bruno, CA 94066 Phone 415-846-7839 http://www.peak-solutions-llc.com
> On Nov 4, 4:21 am, baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: > ...snip... >> It never occurred to me to print on anything other than paper or card >> stock. >> Thanks for the interesting links. :-)
>> -- >> Best Regards: >> Baron.
> Might be interested in seeing the FLATTEST, and most unique, inkjet > target: a layer of plaster of paris. The special ink sets the > particles sprayed and unsprayed particles are sacrificial, to be used > another time.
> This printer puts down a thin layer of plaster of paris, sprays that > layer, then new layer of powder is added and sprayed until a 3D > rendering is completed. I've see 6 inch tall items.
> Most incredible of all, I've seen this "Printer" make operating gear > sets that are impossible to assemble! The gears all spin intermeshed, > but it would NOT be possible to assemble such a structure, it just has > to come into existence - operating.
> Fascinating, that the 'rinter' has better than 3 mil tolerance and the > inks are colored.
> [disclaimer: not associated with this firm, nor gain from discussing > it]
> See: > ZCorp color 3D rapid prototyping at Autodesk Imagine > http://www.zcorp.com
> here in the Bay Area it's repped by > Sales, Northern California, and Nevada > Peak Solutions LLC > 900 Cherry Av, Suite 300 > San Bruno, CA 94066 > Phone 415-846-7839 > http://www.peak-solutions-llc.com
A rather unique way of creating prototypes. Thanks for that fascinating insight.
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