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Ten years after a rare student uprising, nine people are in custody as they prepare a demonstration.
BANGKOK—Lao authorities are detaining nine people said to have been travelling by road to the Lao capital to stage a pro-democracy protest, according to Lao sources who asked not to be named.
On Nov. 2, a convoy set out from the Nam Ngum dam area of Thalat in Vientiane province, heading to Vientiane by taxi when authorities intercepted them in Phone Hong town, some 60 kms from Vientiane and also in Vientiane province, at around 5 a.m., relatives said.
Scores of people were taken into custody, held briefly, and released. Five were still held early Wednesday at an undisclosed location, Lao sources said. They were identified as Ms. Kingkeo, 39; Mr. Soubin, 35; Mr. Souane, 50; Mr. Sinprasong, 43; and Khamsone, 36.
Two busloads carrying about 75 travelers each meanwhile set out from the south, and they were detained in Pakading town some 70 kms from Vientiane in Borikhamxay province, witnesses said.
They had planned to meet several hundred others at the Patuxay monument in Vientiane, sources said, but they too were detained.
The four bus passengers still in custody as of early Wednesday were identified as Mr. Nou, 54, detained in Pakkading, and Ms. Somchit, 29, Mr. Somkhit, 28, and Sourigna, 26, who were detained in Vientiane.
Family members confirmed that all nine were under arrest, sources who asked not to be named said.
Most were connected with the Oct. 26, 1999 student protests in the communist Southeast Asian country—four of whose leaders remain in Samkhe prison in Vientiane after one died in custody.
“What have the 1999 students done that is so terrible as to warrant death and life imprisonment?” a source in Laos asked.
“I am appealing to the international community and the United Nations to look out for the welfare of the Lao people and country. The Lao people are suffering.”
According to the Paris-based Lao Movement for Human Rights, the planned protest aimed at promoting “a real democracy, respect for human rights, cancellation of the Laos-Vietnam Cooperation Treaty of 1977, the release of all political prisoners, and a multiparty system.”
Original reporting by RFA’s Lao service. Lao service director: Viengsay Luangkhot. Executive producer: Susan Lavery. Produced in English by Sarah Jackson-Han.
your sacrifices, even though not successful, will not have been in vain. others will pick up the torch and march again if not today perhaps another day another time. let the freedom ring in the old muonglao.
Lao PDR, you can silence the people's voice for now because you have guns but it's only a matter of time before you will have to change to the people's wishes.
prime minister bouasone, more than 30 years ago, you were one of the demonstrators in pakse asking for changes for the betterment of laos. you have broken that promise by restricting the people's freedoms and basic human rights. it is not too late to undo what you have done to the old muonglao.
> your sacrifices, even though not successful, will not have been in > vain. others will pick up the torch and march again if not today > perhaps another day another time. let the freedom ring in the old > muonglao.
> Lao PDR, you can silence the people's voice for now because you have > guns but it's only a matter of time before you will have to change to > the people's wishes.
> prime minister bouasone, > more than 30 years ago, you were one of the demonstrators in pakse > asking for changes for the betterment of laos. you have broken that > promise by restricting the people's freedoms and basic human rights. > it is not too late to undo what you have done to the old muonglao.
PBL know in advance that will happen, that,s why he posted the picture for us to see two weeks ago and last month he did mention that they will do some thing for the benefit of lao people.
Don't worry, good try and will do again and again untill some thing change in lao. I think the current commie leaders need to buy house in vietnam so the time come they will have place to live.
While Ill-intended elements are dreaming of undermining the country, the Leaders celebrating and praying solenmly with the entire Lao people at That Louang. You can see here:
> PBL know in advance that will happen, that,s why he posted the > picture > for us to see two weeks ago and last month he did mention that they > will do some thing for the benefit of lao people.
> Don't worry, good try and will do again and again untill some thing > change in lao. I think the current commie leaders need to buy house > in > vietnam so the time come they will have place to live.
no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.
the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done this before when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.
thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?
Not only they can but we even facilitate the process by telebroadcasting the Session of National Assembly and by making a hotline and Website available for all social strata in the country to express their view and opinion directly to the MPs.
The people is playing the game and thousands of people conveyed their grief to the MPs during the Session and in particular the Corruption, law enforcement, education etc...
You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao PDR.
But with regard to bad-element, no way they would be ever able to achieve anyything to undermine the country.
Sok dee
On Nov 4, 1:57 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop > today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.
> the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done > this before > when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as > bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.
> thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it > is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the > question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to > express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?
> Not only they can but we even facilitate the process by > telebroadcasting the Session of National Assembly and by making a > hotline and Website available for all social strata in the country to > express their view and opinion directly to the MPs.
> The people is playing the game and thousands of people conveyed their > grief to the MPs during the Session and in particular the Corruption, > law enforcement, education etc...
> You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is > buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao > PDR.
> But with regard to bad-element, no way they would be ever able to > achieve anyything to undermine the country.
> Sok dee
> On Nov 4, 1:57 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop > > today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.
> > the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done > > this before > > when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as > > bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.
> > thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it > > is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the > > question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to > > express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Thanouxay,
You will change your direction when your pockets are full of cash unless you are not 100% pure Laotian. You may know more but what can you do at this time because every corner of Laogovernment has been controled by Vietnamese government. All the Lao ruling class (seui chao) are taking pain killer now and wishing should not have done this way of conquering the contry with the support of Vietnam.
It is aready a nightmare for the Laotians. You may start finding your way out now even it is too late. What other Lao people do for democarcy in Laos will be benefited the future os Laos. Sitting in Geneva office will silently teach you a new direction how lao to rule your own people and country.
A smallest grain can tip off the small. I would not be my life for it. The only way to prevent this revolution is to give people the freedom and justice they deserves.
Ai Bao Lao,
Continue your good mission to free Lao people. All we need to do is to educate our fellow Lao Nai that they need to open up their own eyes and look up to this world. Lao Nai has been suppressed for the last 34 years, Lao lands and natural resources are gone to foreigners. They must wake up and tear down this commie garbage regime that has imprisoned Lao Nai for more than 3 decades. If folks that once controled by the most powerful nation such as Soviet Union could fall a part, why can't Lao Nai do the samething in order to free themselves from those cave-dwelling leaders! Time to ACT is now, don't wait until all lands are taken by foreigners (Yong is selling), and Laotians are forced to live on the makeshift rafts living on Mekong river, and man-made lakes for dams for pennies.
On Nov 4, 5:25 am, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Not only they can but we even facilitate the process by > telebroadcasting the Session of National Assembly and by making a > hotline and Website available for all social strata in the country to > express their view and opinion directly to the MPs.
> The people is playing the game and thousands of people conveyed their > grief to the MPs during the Session and in particular the Corruption, > law enforcement, education etc...
> You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is > buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao > PDR.
> But with regard to bad-element, no way they would be ever able to > achieve anyything to undermine the country.
> Sok dee
> On Nov 4, 1:57 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop > > today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.
> > the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done > > this before > > when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as > > bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.
> > thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it > > is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the > > question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to > > express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?- Hide quoted text -
What I am trying to say is "a smallest grain can tip of the scale". No way you can stop it. Let the freedom rings! Loatians need to take control of its own government.
On Nov 4, 10:13 am, Hmong <cwj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> A smallest grain can tip off the small. I would not be my life for > it. The only way to prevent this revolution is to give people the > freedom and justice they deserves.
> Ai Bao Lao,
> Continue your good mission to free Lao people. All we need to do is to > educate our fellow Lao Nai that they need to open up their own eyes > and look up to this world. Lao Nai has been suppressed for the last > 34 years, Lao lands and natural resources are gone to foreigners. > They must wake up and tear down this commie garbage regime that has > imprisoned Lao Nai for more than 3 decades. If folks that once > controled by the most powerful nation such as Soviet Union could fall > a part, why can't Lao Nai do the samething in order to free themselves > from those cave-dwelling leaders! Time to ACT is now, don't wait > until all lands are taken by foreigners (Yong is selling), and > Laotians are forced to live on the makeshift rafts living on Mekong > river, and man-made lakes for dams for pennies.
> On Nov 4, 5:25 am, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear,
> > Not only they can but we even facilitate the process by > > telebroadcasting the Session of National Assembly and by making a > > hotline and Website available for all social strata in the country to > > express their view and opinion directly to the MPs.
> > The people is playing the game and thousands of people conveyed their > > grief to the MPs during the Session and in particular the Corruption, > > law enforcement, education etc...
> > You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is > > buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao > > PDR.
> > But with regard to bad-element, no way they would be ever able to > > achieve anyything to undermine the country.
> > Sok dee
> > On Nov 4, 1:57 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop > > > today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.
> > > the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done > > > this before > > > when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as > > > bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.
> > > thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it > > > is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the > > > question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to > > > express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?- Hide quoted text -
Wow...! What a coincidence. This fabricated news was posted for only 5 hours and here comes mr. LPDR representative. While rejecting this news as a kind of fabrication from intended ill.elements, he seems to be too hot to be able to enjoy the peaceful ThatLuang Festival,. Hahaha...
Take pictures for the arrest of these demonstrators and post them on Flickr for the whole world to see if you are still Khonlao and has balls.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Laos: Mass Arrests of 346 Protesters Prior to SEA Games "Multiple sources in Laos as well as their families in the Laotian Diaspora community have confirmed the arrest and imprisonment of 346 Laotian students and demonstrators in Vientiane and elsewhere in Laos by the LPDR secret police and military in what is clearly a major crackdown following the 10th anniversary of the student protest in Vientiane in 1999," said Philip Smith, of the CPPA in Washington, D.C.
(Media-Newswire.com) - Vientiane, Laos, Bangkok, Thailand, Paris, France and Washington, D.C., November 4, 2009
Laotian and Hmong human rights organizations have issued statements condemning the new crackdown and urging the release of the Laotian protesters. The Paris, France-based Lao Movement for Human Rights ( MLDH - Mouvement Lao pour les Droits l’Homme, or LMHR ) ), the Lao Students Movement for Democracy ( LSMD ), the United League for Democracy in Laos, Inc. ( ULDL ) the Center for Public Policy Analysis ( CPPA ) and other organizations have issued statements and appeals about the arrests of the some 300 Laotians in recent days.
Vanida S. Thephsouvanh and the MLDH have also issued an international communiqué and statement from Paris, France, regarding the recent arrests in Laos.
“It is urgent for the world to know that now, in Laos, over 300 people involved with organizing peaceful protests against the Lao government were arrested in mass arrests by the Lao communist regime in recent days, starting on November 2, 2009, in Vientiane,” said Oudong Saysana of the Lao Students Movement for Democracy ( LSMD ).
“These were peaceful Laotian protesters seeking to organize demonstrations in support of the Lao Students Movement for Democracy and for reform as well as political and economic justice and human rights in Laos,” Mr. Saysana said on behalf of the LSMD and Lao students.
“The 346 Lao peaceful demonstrators and organizers recently arrested in Laos were seeking to demonstrate and stand-up for the Lao nation and in opposition to the corruption and widespread violation of human rights by the LPDR communist regime. The Lao people and demonstrators want economic and political reform and positive change in Laos. They were arrested because they peacefully opposed the LPDR one-party military dictatorship and instead they support the pro-democracy student demonstrations of 1999 and other political and religious dissident groups seeking political liberty and religious freedom. Clearly, the freedom-loving Lao people want the Vietnamese troops and Vietnam generals in Hanoi to get out of Laos and stop their current intervention to support the LPDR communist puppet regime which the people dislike and oppose because it is a failed and corrupt, communist military dictatorship,” said Bounthanh Rathigna, President, of the United League for Democracy in Laos ( ULDL ).
The Lao Peoples Democratic Republic ( LPDR ) is a one-party communist regime closely allied to Burma and North Korea. It is ruled by a military junta of elderly Stalinist generals.
Laos will host the Southeast Asia Games ( SEA Games ) in December in Vientiane and the LPDR has increased its military and security force operations against Laotian and Hmong civilians as well as political and religious dissidents in recent months. The Socialist Republic of Vietnam ( SRV ) and Vietnam Peoples Army have increased their military operations and security force intervention in Laos in support of the Lao Peoples Army ( LPA ), especially in attacks against Laotian and Hmong civilians and dissidents hiding in the jungles and mountains of Laos, including Lao and Hmong Christians and dissident Buddhist and Animist believers.
In October of 1999, Lao Student demonstrators staged peaceful protests in Vientiane, Laos against the one-party authoritarian regime seeking political change and reform of the corrupt and oppressive police state. They were brutally arrested and imprisoned, some of the students escaped an were given political asylum in the United States.
October 26, 2009, marked the 10th anniversary of student anti- government protests in Laos.
“Multiple sources in Laos as well as their families in the Laotian Diaspora community have confirmed the arrest and imprisonment of 346 Laotian students and demonstrators in Vientiane and elsewhere in Laos by the LPDR secret police and military in what is clearly a major crackdown following the 10th anniversary of the student protest in Vientiane in 1999,” said Philip Smith, Executive Director of the Center for Public Policy Analysis ( CPPA ) in Washington, D.C.
“Thousand of Laotian and Hmong civilians, including women and children, have been starved to death and killed in recent months and years in Laos by LPA troops and security forces who have raped and committed other horrific atrocities against innocent civilians, ethnic minorities and dissident groups,” continued Smith.
Smith said further: “The new arrests and imprisonment of over 300 Lao students and peaceful protesters this month is clearly part of a much wider strategy and crackdown in Laos by the Lao Peoples Army and Vietnam Peoples Army prior to the start of the SEA Games; In recent days and weeks, hundreds of innocent Laotian and Hmong in Laos have been abducted, arrested, imprisoned, killed or have simply disappeared, especially in the recent crackdown by the LPDR secret policy and ethnic cleansing operations by the LPA and VPA military in Xieng Khouang Province, Luang Prabang Province, Khammoune Province, Savanakhet, Vientiane Province and elsewhere in Laos.”
The following is the text of the international communiqué and statement by the Lao Movement for Human Rights ( MLDH ) and its President, Vanida S. Thephsouvanh, issued yesterday evening, November 3, 2009, from Paris, France:
“Laos:
New attempt for a peaceful protest in Vientiane-More than 300 arrests
More than 300 persons, who were preparing for a peaceful protest in Vientiane to call for "human rights respect" and a "multipartite system" were arrested on Monday 2 November 2009 by the "secret police" of the Lao People's Democratic Republic ( LPDR ), according to information received today by the Lao Movement for Human Rights ( MLDH ).
The source detailed that "several hundred persons" ... have been "imultaneously arrested at diffrent places in the country'' early in the morning of November 2nd, 2009 : "more than 100 persons at Pakkading, Bolikhamsay province ( Center ), more than 20 persons at Phon Hong, Vientiane province ( Center ) while they were travelling to the That Luang annual festival in Vientiane ( Center ), and more than 200 persons in the capital, before they were able to gather together for a peaceful protest."
The 2 November 2009 protest aimed to claim for "a real democracy, human rights respect, the cancellation of the Laos-Vietnam Cooperation Treaty of 1977, the release of all political prisoners and a multipartite system," as reported by information sent from inside the LPDR.
If the majority of the persons arrested yesterday have been released, many of them are still detained at this moment, among whom "Mrs Kingkeo ( 39 ), Misters Soubin ( 35 ), Souane ( 50 ), Sinpasong ( 43 ) and Khamsone ( 36 ) arrested in Phon Hong; Mr Nou ( 54 ) arrested in Pakkading; Ms Somchit ( 29 ), Misters Somkhit ( 28 ) and Sourigna ( 26 ) arrested in Vientiane," according to this same information.
The Lao Movement for Human Rights is highly concerned by these disturbing news and asks the LPDR authorities to account clear explanations of these arrests and to immediately release these persons whose only action seem to wish for a peaceful protest in favor of democracy and human rights.
The Lao Movement for Human Rights sadly notes that these alarming news come only a month after the ratification by the LPDR of the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights ( ICCPR ) which guarantees to the Lao people the freedom of belief, freedom of association, freedom of expression and freedom of the press, as well as the rights to protest and political rights.
The news also happened a week after the 10thanniversary of the "'Student Movement of 26 October 1999' whose leaders have been imprisoned for 10 years in the LPDR jails.”
( End International Communique Lao Movement for Human Rights, November 3, 2009, Paris, France )
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Of all the people who talk about democracy these people are the ones who walk the walk. For they are truely the brave. One day the majority of the Lao citizens will join them, then that is when real changes will happen. No one love their country more than they for they sacrafice themselve for the good of the country. They are true laotian patriots.
> Not only they can but we even facilitate the process by > telebroadcasting the Session of National Assembly and by making a > hotline and Website available for all social strata in the country to > express their view and opinion directly to the MPs.
> The people is playing the game and thousands of people conveyed their > grief to the MPs during the Session and in particular the Corruption, > law enforcement, education etc...
> You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is > buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao > PDR.
> But with regard to bad-element, no way they would be ever able to > achieve anyything to undermine the country.
> Sok dee
> On Nov 4, 1:57 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop > > today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.
> > the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done > > this before > > when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as > > bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.
> > thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it > > is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the > > question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to > > express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?
ຕະລົກດີນໍ ຣັຖະບານຫາກໍເຊັນສັນຍາ the ratification by the LPDR of the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights ( ICCPR ) which guarantees to the Lao people the freedom of belief, freedom of association, freedom of expression and freedom of the press, as well as the rights to protest and political rights. ບາດເອົາແທ້ໆກໍສະແດງຂີ້ພື້ນອອກມາໃຫ້ເຫັນທັນຕາແບບສາຍຟ້າແລ໋ບເລີຍເນາະ
> On Nov 4, 7:25 am, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear,
> > Not only they can but we even facilitate the process by > > telebroadcasting the Session of National Assembly and by making a > > hotline and Website available for all social strata in the country to > > express their view and opinion directly to the MPs.
> > The people is playing the game and thousands of people conveyed their > > grief to the MPs during the Session and in particular the Corruption, > > law enforcement, education etc...
> > You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is > > buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao > > PDR.
> > But with regard to bad-element, no way they would be ever able to > > achieve anyything to undermine the country.
> > Sok dee
> > On Nov 4, 1:57 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop > > > today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.
> > > the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done > > > this before > > > when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as > > > bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.
> > > thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it > > > is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the > > > question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to > > > express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?
> ຕະລົກດີນໍ ຣັຖະບານຫາກໍເຊັນສັນຍາ the ratification by the LPDR of the > International Convention on Civil and Political Rights ( ICCPR ) which > guarantees to the Lao people the freedom of belief, freedom of > association, freedom of expression and freedom of the press, as well > as the rights to protest and political rights. > ບາດເອົາແທ້ໆກໍສະແດງຂີ້ພື້ນອອກມາໃຫ້ເຫັນທັນຕາແບບສາຍຟ້າແລ໋ບເລີຍເນາະ
The Real 100% Laotian actuall did something wondeful. Eventhought, They will not last long. They will die soon. Remember Laotian People are like fish. Fish can not stay long without water. Real Laotian People can not stay long. They can only state in the flat land which there are not that many in Laos and Hmong Country.
Not surprising, this happing in South of Vientiane. Not in Hmong Country. Good luck to the Real 100% Laotian. Continue to stay South of Vietniane because that is where you suppose to be. North is the Hmong. Remember your brother LPDR is not longer fresh. They are 1/2 Vietnamese and 1/2 Laotian. Watch out for them. hang out with the Hmong is better. Remember who killed your king. It was not the Hmong. It was your brother. Vang Pao, the Hmong Leader has a long long history of respecting your king. Average Hmong are not respecting your king but we did not kill the king neither.
Your Real 100% Laotian People can take care South of the 18 degree and We Hmong will take care North of the 18 degree. We can guarantee you that within 24 hours, LPDR will be dry and hungry because there are not much LPDR in our land.
If your Real Laotian People have something to do, do it now before the SEA Game. Remember that protest and rules has not work with the LPDR and will not work. Guns and bombs often work.
Again, Good Luck to your White Reall 100% Laotian. May Budha bless you. Not the Hmong, we have our own god.
> On Nov 4, 7:50 pm, chicsman <chics...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 7:25 am, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dear,
> > > Not only they can but we even facilitate the process by > > > telebroadcasting the Session of National Assembly and by making a > > > hotline and Website available for all social strata in the country to > > > express their view and opinion directly to the MPs.
> > > The people is playing the game and thousands of people conveyed their > > > grief to the MPs during the Session and in particular the Corruption, > > > law enforcement, education etc...
> > > You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is > > > buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao > > > PDR.
> > > But with regard to bad-element, no way they would be ever able to > > > achieve anyything to undermine the country.
> > > Sok dee
> > > On Nov 4, 1:57 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop > > > > today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.
> > > > the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done > > > > this before > > > > when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as > > > > bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.
> > > > thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it > > > > is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the > > > > question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to > > > > express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?
> > ຕະລົກດີນໍ ຣັຖະບານຫາກໍເຊັນສັນຍາ the ratification by the LPDR of the > > International Convention on Civil and Political Rights ( ICCPR ) which > > guarantees to the Lao people the freedom of belief, freedom of > > association, freedom of expression and freedom of the press, as well > > as the rights to protest and political rights. > > ບາດເອົາແທ້ໆກໍສະແດງຂີ້ພື້ນອອກມາໃຫ້ເຫັນທັນຕາແບບສາຍຟ້າແລ໋ບເລີຍເນາະ
> The Real 100% Laotian actuall did something wondeful. Eventhought, > They will not last long. They will die soon. Remember Laotian People > are like fish. Fish can not stay long without water. Real Laotian > People can not stay long. They can only state in the flat land which > there are not that many in Laos and Hmong Country.
> Not surprising, this happing in South of Vientiane. Not in Hmong > Country. Good luck to the Real 100% Laotian. Continue to stay South of > Vietniane because that is where you suppose to be. North is the Hmong. > Remember your brother LPDR is not longer fresh. They are 1/2 > Vietnamese and 1/2 Laotian. Watch out for them. hang out with the > Hmong is better. Remember who killed your king. It was not the Hmong. > It was your brother. Vang Pao, the Hmong Leader has a long long > history of respecting your king. Average Hmong are not respecting your > king but we did not kill the king neither.
> Your Real 100% Laotian People can take care South of the 18 degree and > We Hmong will take care North of the 18 degree. We can guarantee you > that within 24 hours, LPDR will be dry and hungry because there are > not much LPDR in our land.
> If your Real Laotian People have something to do, do it now before the > SEA Game. Remember that protest and rules has not work with the LPDR > and will not work. Guns and bombs often work.
> Again, Good Luck to your White Reall 100% Laotian. May Budha bless > you. Not the Hmong, we have our own god.
> Hmong Freedom II, LPDR's enemy
I don't think guns and bombs will always work either. The LPDR won by cheathing the peace agreement, no bombs and bullets. American had more bombs and bullets, Viet still won. Soviet Union collapsed not by guns and bullets, It's by their inside people rise up. Laos is going to be the same way as long as people can't take it any more and rise up all together, it is faster and better than guns and bombs way as you state.
If you thinking of dissecting Laos, it will make it worst. Laos will never have peace. Majorities Laotian(included all ethnic) will not go for that.
We should stand shoulder to shoulder uprising against communism. Communism is not good for Lao people. Laos is too small to be divided into 49 pieces of lands for each of the ethnic group. All ethnic groups in Laos are known to be kind people and good hospitality that run deep in their blood. I remembered when I was just a kid, our Lao Puan guests spent nights with us whenever they passed by. Each of them packed in their travel bags with Oranges, duck eggs, and other home made candies as presents for our brothers and sisters. Whenever our parents visited our phinong Lao, they always were welcomed them as good friends, offered a place to sleep and eat.
What is bad is this garbage commie system that brain washed everyone not to trust each other. Remember, commie agents came to the village, gave candies to a young child and asked to spy on their parents. Most of the time , kids wanted candies and they made up the stories that commie agents wanted to hear. Kids did not know that what they had made it up led them to orphanage. The same tactics were used in Cambodia that caused the disappearance of 2 millions people.
Laotians (all ethnic) have been suffering so much for the last 34 years, now it is time to call up on all Lao nai to take back their freedom and justice. They don't need a groups of cave-dwelling leaders who live as beggars on international donor monies, and sell anything that they can get their hand on. Lao must "hed Lao xai" mentality. No more Viet domination!
On Nov 4, 7:06 pm, chicsman <chics...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 8:45 pm, Freedom I <listhoj1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I don't think guns and bombs will always work either. The LPDR won by > cheathing the peace agreement, no bombs and bullets. American had more > bombs and bullets, Viet still won. Soviet Union collapsed not by guns > and bullets, It's by their inside people rise up. Laos is going to be > the same way as long as people can't take it any more and rise up all > together, it is faster and better than guns and bombs way as you > state.
> If you thinking of dissecting Laos, it will make it worst. Laos will > never have peace. Majorities Laotian(included all ethnic) will not go > for that.- Hide quoted text -
I can confirm 1000% that there was no any such incident happened in Laos during Thatluang festival 2009 It was the rumour created by reactionary Lao overseas in cooperation with RFA die-hard editor.
I can confirm 1000% that there was no any such incident happened in Laos during Thatluang festival 2009 It was the rumour created by reactionary Lao overseas in cooperation with RFA die-hard editor.
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