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ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ  
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 Más opciones 7 nov 2009, 15:41
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De: ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ <bao...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:41:15 -0800 (PST)
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Asunto: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
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Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:47:45 -0800 (PST)
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Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On 7 Nov, 12:41, ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ <bao...@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder they keep arreste more peoples and yong, dkj keep deny the
arrested. If they are perfect them they should tell the true and
explain the reason of arrested.

How can dr. pao also in there and have no voice about this arrest at
all. Is he and his friend are in the planning of arrest as well.


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ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ  
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 Más opciones 7 nov 2009, 16:58
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De: ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ <phet...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:58:32 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 16:58
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 7, 10:47 am, yawgnomdub <yawg...@rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On 7 Nov, 12:41, ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ <bao...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How can dr. pao also in there and have no voice about this arrest at
> all. Is he and his friend are in the planning of arrest as well.

Dr. Pao is there he's leader of Neohom himself
why he still be able to cruising around, spend well
his money enjoy drinking with old friend?
That is your answer..
The news is fabricated to attack LPDR, offcourse
LPDR is like all other country in the word, they can't
make every one happy that's impossible, as you can
see the shooting at Ft Hood Tx, USA, nothing wrong
with him he just not happy for US government that all...

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 Más opciones 7 nov 2009, 20:53
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De: thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:53:03 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 20:53
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
Dear Lao Phouan and all,

If you read carfully the statement posted by PhoubaoLao, there are
only claims, affirmation, accusation but no proof, no fact and of
course no evidence. The charabia in the text is: they cut and paste
from here and there to make the text longer and longer but what they
failed to understand is that more they claim more they discredit their
claim because no proof and no evidence.

Very funny

Sok dee

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The Chosen One  
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 Más opciones 7 nov 2009, 21:45
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De: The Chosen One <siengr1...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:45:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 21:45
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 7, 1:41 pm, ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ <bao...@gmail.com> wrote:

All SCLers,

The number keeps increasing and increasing. It'll be over 1000 people
by the end of next week. Initially it was over 300 detained and then
most got released and now it's still over 300 people + 13 more,
according to PBL's number.
I am wondering who's in right mind would stage something like this and
expect to get away before the big public events like the SEA Games,
where the security is expected to be tight; unless they're ready to be
in the dark cells for the rest of their lives.
Secondly, what kind of trouble can a dozen of people do to have any
impacts?
Thirdly, if this is true, why don't RFA or whoever creates this news
publish the names including the family names, address or village where
they live? If they know the first name and age, I am sure that they
can find out the last name and the address too. The first name and
some age number do not mean anything. Any one can come up with that.
If they can publish the name and address I am sure that Lao community
overseas can confirm with their relatives in Laos if these people are
actually got arrested. Laos is not that big. So, why doesn't the RFA
start with that to prove the creditability??

Jerry


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Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:13:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 22:13
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 7, 3:53 pm, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

LPDR's ideologies will always be:

1. We don't see
2. We don't know
3. We haven't heard about it
4. We don't do it. And
5. We don't have it.  Period.

Even you blow Patouxay in ashes... they still claim.... just
electricity wiring problem.  So if you want to wake up the world, use
a better technique.


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 Más opciones 7 nov 2009, 22:33
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De: ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ <bao...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:33:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 22:33
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
Thanouxay

Number came from this:

Sources in Laos and the Lao government are reporting that secret
police in Laos are going door-to-door in key areas of Vientiane, Luang
Prabang, Xieng Khouang and elsewhere in Laos arresting Lao and Hmong
suspects allegedly affiliated with organizing anti-government rallies
from November 2-5, 2009. According to sources in Laos, 13 more people
were arrested today in Vientiane. The new arrests brings to 359 the
known Laotian people arrested, or jailed, by the LPA and Lao secret
police since November 2, 2009, prior to the start of the Southeast
Asia games ( SEA games) in December.

Did you look at bottom of the page where news sources came from?

http://www.live-pr.com/en/laos-vietnam-jail-more-political-religious-...

HP
PBL

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ກາສາລາວ  
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 Más opciones 8 nov 2009, 00:33
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Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:33:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 00:33
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
jerry,

you are talking as things are running like in america. that is not the
case here.

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The Chosen One  
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Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:00:59 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 02:00
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 7, 10:33 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:

CSL,

The problem with people today is that when they see or hear a news on
TVs or papers, automatically without even analyzing the whole story,
in their simple mind they think the story is 100% accurate or true.
For example, If CNN says something and then ABC and CBS or other news
outlets say the same thing, in their average mind automatically the
story gotta be right or true. That's why I watch both the extreme left
and the right wing news outlets - Fox News and MSNBC, and something
else in between.
As for this story, if they have the credible source, especially when
they know the detained people's age and gender, I am sure that their
source(s) can get them the family name and the village(s) where they
live or even better the pictures of the event. To me, it seemed like
the source(s) already have seen the detainees' ID cards. Just think
about this: if I tell you that I have an ananymous source in your area
telling me that your wife is cheating on you. Will you believe my
story without any evidence any substantiation from me? Probably not,
right? However, for a guy that has already mistrusted on his wife, he
certainly will sway. I don't know about you but for me I believe
stuffs based on evidences and substantiations, not just based on what
someone has said.

Jerry


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 Más opciones 8 nov 2009, 02:55
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Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:55:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 02:55
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 7, 8:00 pm, The Chosen One <siengr1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jerry I am with you on this one . Like I said before soon everything
will be back to normal again . This is not the first time some of
these people making little noise like this  one and it won't be the
last time either . The last 30 plus years how many incidents and cases
these people accused LPDR of doing this and that . They went all the
way to United Congress and United Nation . What were the resulted ?
Nothing nada zero but instead United Stated awarded LPDR with NTR ,
taken out of US black list and improved their relationship politically
and military everyday as we speak . Put Vang Pao and his gangs in
checked on US black list . At the end LPDR will win again as usual .

PXL4LIFE.


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 Más opciones 8 nov 2009, 02:56
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Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:56:24 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 02:56
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
hmmm... your piece of thought there really gives me pause. let's wait
awhile and see how things progress on the ground there.

hahaha... i can't believe that you can tolerate watching FOX NEWs or
FAUX News as i like to call that news outlet. this coming week we will
see glen beck the retarded mormon cry on tv again because congress has
just passed the health bill. he's gonna say something like 'ahahah...
we are all gonna die because this country is becoming a SOCIALIST
COUNTRY NOW... BOOHOOOO...'

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ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ  
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 Más opciones 8 nov 2009, 03:18
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Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:18:47 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 03:18
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 7, 9:00 pm, The Chosen One <siengr1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jerry these peoples have alot of free time and immagination
considered as a friction story of SCL for your entertainment...

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thanouxay  
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Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:53:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 07:53
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
Siengr1 and all,

Yes, ths is what I said... If the news were credible enough, all the
International press would have pick up it for days... In this case of
fabrication, only RFA pick up the news and then Philip smith and his
cronies started to add on lies.

Please just take notice that no one pick up the news showed that no
one among the credible and respectable press, played around with those
morron.

Sok dee

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Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 8, 12:56 am, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:

ai yai, calmer heads will always prevail.

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Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:15:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 13:15
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
laophuan,
you meant to say 'FICTION' yeah? of course this fiction has a lot of
frictions. stay tuned for more.

On Nov 7, 10:18 pm, ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ <phet...@gmail.com> wrote:
 > Jerry these peoples have alot of free time and immagination


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The Chosen One  
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Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 8, 1:18 am, ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ <phet...@gmail.com> wrote:

LP,

Yes, but you have to be careful to whom you listen, especially on
Laos. For Lao people, things tends to be Khao kha Xok, ok kha va (in
for an inch, out in a yard) Laos is far from perfect. There're a lot
of things that we don't know about, especially negative things about
Laos or the Lao govt.

Jerry


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samphong  
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Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 8, 4:53 am, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Siengr1 and all,

> Yes, ths is what I said... If the news were credible enough, all the
> International press would have pick up it for days... In this case of
> fabrication, only RFA pick up the news and then Philip smith and his
> cronies started to add on lies.

> Please just take notice that no one pick up the news showed that no
> one among the credible and respectable press, played around with those
> morron.

> Sok dee

It seems the Lao Ambassador to the United Nations, Yong Chanthalangsy,
is still on duty as the Lao spokesperson (a post he previously,
officially held)...and calling international critics, "morron."

The real moron is a U.N. Ambassador who continues to be the all time
Lao government official internet junkie, on the international stage.


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ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ  
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Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 8, 8:20 am, The Chosen One <siengr1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 8, 1:18 am, ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ <phet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> LP,

> Yes, but you have to be careful to whom you listen, especially on
> Laos. For Lao people, things tends to be Khao kha Xok, ok kha va (in
> for an inch, out in a yard) Laos is far from perfect. There're a lot
> of things that we don't know about, especially negative things about
> Laos or the Lao govt.

> Jerry- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Jerry  you are right Khuam Kha Xok Ok kha wah, Pan Nam hai Pen
Ton (water to ice) Sorphor-Torlair Park-pen....etc..
I think you still remember that your parent told you when any guest
at home never fight, never ask for money or showing hungry?
Laos is the host of SEA game, many peoples from other country will
pour in to Laos, who ever attack LPDR this time have no conscience
(Bor Hou Jack Khuam) never got that lesson..

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Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:11:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 16:11
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009

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ນີ້ເດີຕູ້ລາວພວນ. ໃຫ້ເຈົ້າເວົ້າ ຕາມນີ້ເດີ.
ນຶ່ງ, ສອງ, ສາມ "ສາທາຣະນະຣັດ ປະຊາທິປະຕັຍ ປະຊາຊົນລາວ ໝັ້ນຍືນ, ໝັ້ນຍືນ,
ໝັ້ນຍືນ" "ໄຊໂຍ"

ຮາຮາຮາ... ດີໃຈແລ້ວນໍຄັນໄດ້ເວົ້າ ຄໍາຂວັນທີ່ຖືກກະດອງໃຈ.


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thanouxay  
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 Más opciones 8 nov 2009, 17:26
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De: thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:26:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 17:26
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
Lao Phouan,

Thank you for your goodwill. Lao PDR know how to defend itself and the
People's Power has more strength than any body. any thanks.

sok dee

On 8 nov, 20:03, ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ <phet...@gmail.com> wrote:


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yawgnomdub  
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Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:38:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 17:38
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On 8 Nov, 14:26, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Mr. phuan

Do you see? You defend of lpdr have no merit at all. Shame on you and
will shame forever


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Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:39:24 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 19:39
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
On Nov 8, 4:53 am, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Schers,

I've never seen Lao PDR admitted any of his acts, but denied all even
what its government had committed and violated the international laws
such as persecuting the jungle Hmong who have scars to proof to the
world on films.

X Z


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ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ  
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 Más opciones 8 nov 2009, 19:52
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De: ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ <bao...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:52:24 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 19:52
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
I have no word on this except: 555555555
How are you doing today, Mr. ເຊອີອາ Laophuan?

ຈົ່ງນອນຫລັບ ຝັນດີ ...!!!

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ກາສາລາວ  
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 Más opciones 8 nov 2009, 20:51
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Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:51:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 20:51
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
laophuan,

the Lao PDR asked the chinese who are going to be guests at the SEA
games to build the sport complex for a land concession. how do we call
that? HOST ASKING GUEST FOR MONEY?

do you do any serious thinking before you jump up and down to defend
the Lao PDR regime?

On Nov 8, 11:03 am, ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ <phet...@gmail.com> wrote:


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ນໍ້າໃຈລາວ​ XiangMieng  
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Fecha: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:30:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 21:30
Asunto: Re: 13 more people were arrested in Vientiane today, November 6 2009
Ah hammm!
RFA's reputation maybe at stake here, unless they can produce some
credible evidence. Other secondhand sources are a little too bias and
self serving. There is no doubt that security have been increased in
Laos, specially VTE due to ASEAN ministers meeting, Thatluang
festival, and up coming ASEAN game. If there is not such arrests why
intimidation of families not to talk to foreign media? tension is
rising in VTE and I hold grave concern of something bad would happen
during the game, as an act of desperation and frustration of a system
too absorbed in itself than serving the people, people who say "dammed
not in my name!".

On Nov 7, 6:41 pm, ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ <bao...@gmail.com> wrote:


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