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Asunto: China embraces Confucius again
China embraces Confucius again

Once in disgrace as a lackey of the feudal class, Confucius may rise
again to replace Marx as the guiding spirit of the Communist Party.

Confucius has returned. In fact he was never far away, not even in the
darkest days of the Cultural Revolution. For years the government
reviled Confucius as a representative of "old ways of thinking", a
lackey of the feudal class and oppressor of slaves. Lin Biao, the
disgraced heir apparent of Mao, was condemned not only as a traitor
but as "a close follower of Confucius". It has always been like this
in Chinese history. In the 3rd century BC, Chin—the first emperor and
unifier of China—wanted to do away with history and tradition so that
he would become the cornerstone of a new China. He ordered the
Confucian classics to be burned and the scholars massacred, much as
Mao Tse-tung did.

What happened after Chin is happening after Mao: Confucius is making a
comeback. it could hardly be otherwise. China is not China without
Confucius.

The ideology of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is in deep crisis.
Even among Party leaders, it is hard to find a convinced Marxist, even
though a portrait of Mao is still hanging in Tiananmen Square. From a
pragmatic perspective, the CCP needs to justify its grip on power
using the old dynastic rationale: Mao is the founder of a new dynasty
and the CCP is his heir. The CCP is no longer a revolutionary party;
but a political aristocracy that claims a monopoly on power to steer
the country through an economic and social transformation
unprecedented in human history and make it a great power. There are no
obvious alternatives. The history of China in the 20th century has
been so volatile, violent, chaotic and miserable that its citizens
appreciate the relative prosperity and freedom, even if there is room
for much improvement.

But this leaves the CPP with two great problems: consistency and
solidarity. For 30 years the Party has followed the pragmatic approach
suggested by Deng Xiaoping: "To be rich is to be glorious." Hence it
has followed capitalist development policies. But this has created a
problem of consistency within the Party. The Marxist structures and
slogans remain, but the ideology has evaporated. What is the source,
then, of the regime's legitimacy?

The other problem is social solidarity. China has the largest number
of millionaires in the world and the companies with greatest market
value. But there are vast differences between the well-developed
coastal regions and the poor interior provinces, and between rural and
urban areas. Corruption is rife and the socialist safety nets of the
1970s are being undone with nothing to replace them. Demonstrations
and complaints have been increasingly frequent. Can the government
withstand the stormy seas ahead?

In view of this social turmoil, the Chinese Prime Minister, Hu Jintao,
deliberately revived the ancient sage at the CPP's recent five-year
congress in Beijing. Hu's slogan of the "Three Harmonies" is clearly
Confucian: he-ping (peace in the world), he-jie (reconciliation with
Taiwan), he-xie (social harmony). This is clearly a Confucian
program.

Ever since Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao took control of the main political
positions of China at the end of 2002, they have consistently acted as
ruler-scholars at the service of the people, in keeping with the
Confucian ideal of a good ruler. Many of their slogans, such as
"people first", "running the Government at the service of the people",
and "seek harmony in differences," are literal quotations from
Confucius or his follower Mencius.

The rebirth of Confucian values is everywhere. The Chinese Government
has fostered the creation of Confucius Institutes all over the world
to promote Chinese language and culture; the curricula in schools and
universities pay now more attention to the Chinese classics; it is
becoming fashionable in the media to use expressions with Confucian
undertones. One of the outstanding publishing success stories of the
last few years has been the sale of almost four million copies of a
simplified version of Confucius’s Analects.

Confucius’ moral and social philosophy goes directly against the
moribund Marxist orthodoxy but the CPP likes its emphasis on order,
harmony, sense of responsibility, and authority. As the heirs of the
Mao dynasty, they are seeking support for their position.

However, this novel emphasis on Confucian values may be motivated by
an honest drive to seek a solid foundation in the quicksands of social
transformation. Hu and Wen are fully aware that Confucian ethics
imposes reciprocal rights and duties on rulers and citizens. It
demands obedience to authority, but imposes on the Government the duty
of moral behaviour in favour of the people, to the point that it
justifies rebellion against tyranny. They have begun a one-way trip
away from Marxist ideology. Furthermore, the new generation of Chinese
leaders believes that their first loyalty is to China and its people,
not to the CPP. They have a deep sense of mission and responsibility
rooted in the Confucian ideals of a good ruler -- even if the West
views them as a despotic autocracy.

Confucianism and government

 Confucius (551-479 BC) is the most influential thinker of China of
the past 25 centuries. He shaped the culture not only of the "Central
Kingdom," but also of Korea, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan and Vietnam. The
canonical texts of Confucianism, the Four Books, including the
Analects by Confucius, the Book of Mencius, The Great Learning, and
the Doctrine of the Mean. These are not philosophical treatises with
the logical rigor of Greek thought, but suggestive thoughts open to
many interpretations. Confucian orthodoxy today is based on an
interpretation made by scholars of the Sung Dynasty, in the 10th to
13th centuries.

Confucianism is a system of personal and social ethics. It does not
rely upon supernatural arguments or God, although it is not closed to
transcendence. Confucius simply pleads ignorance about the fate of man
after death, while insisting on the importance of venerating one's
forefathers as a sign of filial piety. Confucius would not regard
himself as a secularist. Secularism disdains man’s spiritual needs,
but there is nothing in the thinking of Confucius which suppresses
man's spiritual dimension.

Confucianism’s starting point is the unity of the three great
realities: Heaven, Man, and Earth. The universe obeys its own order
and laws and ethical behaviour consists precisely in following those
"natural laws." For Confucius, the evil and disorder that visit human
beings are a consequence of immorality. In particular, rulers have
authority because they have received it from a higher power (tiandao)
by means of a Mandate of Heaven (tianming). What exactly Heaven means
in Confucian thought is disputed since it is, like many other notions
of Chinese philosophy, a vague intuition rather than a formal
metaphysical concept. In any case, it is something more than just
mechanical laws.

The rulers lose the Mandate of Heaven when they fail to behave
ethically. Then the people can legitimately demand a change in
government. But so long as the rulers enjoy the Mandate of Heaven, the
people are obliged to obey and follow docilely the ruler's decrees.
When Hu Jintao invokes Confucian values he is implicitly renouncing
both the dictatorship of the proletariat and the tyranny of the
market, as well as encouraging his fellow citizens to follow the order
that heavens have given to human nature in order to reach personal
perfection and social harmony.

Like his Greek contemporary Aristotle, Confucius follows an ethics of
perfection. Human beings must be in harmony with the universe, which
assumes obedience to laws decreed by heaven. Obedience to the laws of
nature requires learning them with self-knowledge and study. Knowing
the laws leads to li, a characteristically Confucian virtue that
implies the internalization of good social forms. Correct social
behaviour results from consistency between external social conventions
and internal personal dispositions. Li is the root of ren, a higher
virtue, which could be roughly translated as "benevolence": wishing
the best for everyone. For Confucius, the virtue of ren begins at
home, with one’s family. From there it spreads in wider ripples to all
people. Confucian ethics carries a strong domestic flavour: family
relations are the foundation and model of all social relations. Ren
implies the practice of zhong (fidelity, loyalty) and of shu (mercy,
compassion). Benevolence (ren) also leads to the practice of the
principles of justice and equity, which are at the core of the virtue
of yi.

A virtuous individual reaches moral perfection by seeking in
everything a proper balance, the virtuous equilibrium of the just
mean, which could be summarized as "know and respect the mandates of
Heaven." For Confucius, society must be ruled by virtuous scholars.
The calling and mission of a virtuous person is to rule others. This
is not seen as an honour or an opportunity for personal benefit, since
this should never be in the mind of a person aspiring to perfection.
It is simply done in obedience to a mandate from Heaven, which a
superior person knows and obeys.

If the current rehabilitation of Confucianism in China is sincere, it
confirms that the CCP intends to transform itself into a political
aristocracy. It will no longer aim at the dictatorship of the
proletariat, but at rule by the best equipped to govern the nation. In
this it will connect with previous dynasties, since meritocracy has
been for thousands of years a part of the administrative organization
of the State through empire-wide competitive examinations.

Another relevant point of Confucian ethics is its emphasis on
responsibility. Western liberal democracy is based on an
individualistic ethic which focuses on rights and freedom. In
Confucianism, however, the individual is a person-for-others. Hence ...

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This is just another daily cut-and-paste troll post by the ugly
lesbian Philippino whore abianchen, real name Meichi. Ignore her.

Facts about abianchen/Meichi the despicable ugly lesbian Philippino
whore:

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Abianchen is not Chinese. She is a fraud, and above all, she is damn
UGLY!

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Asunto: Re: This is just another daily cut-and-paste troll post by the ugly lesbian Philippino whore abianchen, real name Meichi. Ignore her.
Hey, psycho Xangdi (Dabian eater), where is your infamous ID "Xangdi",
did someone kill that one too? Haha!

Hey psycho Xangdi, just because abianchen exposed your racist act when
you pretended as a black guy using ID "Leroy B Jones" to harass black
people in November 2007 so you wanted revenge against abianchen for
the rest of your life? Get over it! Anyway, don't you think that's
hilarious when you got exposed, one netter said you got caught pants
down! Because of that, you abandoned your infamous ID "Chairman Mao
Says". That's also hilarious. Hehe!

Abianchen, a Filipino whore Meichi? No kidding! Hey, anyone believes
you and Rusty Old Fool's lies? Haha!

Oops, psycho Xangdi is going to repost his stolen Filipino girl's
photo to "prove" (frame actually) Chinese guy abianchen is "Filipino
whore Meichi" for revenge. Abianchen has become the most important
person in his life. Psycho Xangdi even calls himself "Virus for
Dabian". Can you believe it?!

Hey Psycho Xangdi (Dabian eater), you said (lied actually) that you
live in Taipei and graduated from Chinese Culture University, Taipei,
but how come you don't understand the following Chinese 打油詩:

賈潘叔, 真蜈蜙, 甘霖老木賽羚羊! 聽不懂吧?! 好爽! 哈哈!

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Hey, psycho Xangdi (Dabian eater), where is your infamous ID "Xangdi",
did someone kill that one too? Haha!

Hey psycho Xangdi, just because abianchen exposed your racist act when
you pretended as a black guy using ID "Leroy B Jones" to harass black
people in November 2007 so you wanted revenge against abianchen for
the rest of your life? Get over it! Anyway, don't you think that's
hilarious when you got exposed, one netter said you got caught pants
down! Because of that, you abandoned your infamous ID "Chairman Mao
Says". That's also hilarious. Hehe!

Abianchen, a Filipino whore Meichi? No kidding! Hey, anyone believes
you and Rusty Old Fool's lies? Haha!

Oops, psycho Xangdi is going to repost his stolen Filipino girl's
photo to "prove" (frame actually) Chinese guy abianchen is "Filipino
whore Meichi" for revenge. Abianchen has become the most important
person in his life. Psycho Xangdi even calls himself "Virus for
Dabian". Can you believe it?!

Hey Psycho Xangdi (Dabian eater), you said (lied actually) that you
live in Taipei and graduated from Chinese Culture University, Taipei,
but how come you don't understand the following Chinese 打油詩:

賈潘叔, 真蜈蜙, 甘霖老木賽羚羊! 聽不懂吧?! 好爽! 哈哈!

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Asunto: This is just another daily cut-and-paste troll post by the ugly lesbian Philippino whore abianchen, real name Meichi. Ignore her.
Never really had anything much to say, have you, ugly Philippino
lesbian puta abianchnen/Meichi, other than the same old childish and
girlish taunts you've been dishing out year-in, year-out? As always,
your response has got absolutely nothing to do with my accusation of
your being a troll and a liar. Instead of defending yourself, you
launch into more lies, accusing me of being someone else. This shows
clearly that you are uneducated and that you are incapable of what you
yourself call a "discussion". In other words, you are a pathological
liar and a mental retard, ugly Philippino lesbian whore abianchen/
Meichi!

Never could write any of that in Chinese after all these years, could
you, ugly lesbian puta abianchen/Meichi? So, what have you got to show
for your claim of being able to "speak, read/write perfect Chinese"?
NOTHING! All you can do is cut-and-paste infantile girlish insults you
cut-and-pasted from the internet!

You are just a moron and pathological LIAR, and damn UGLY:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/3415206204/ .

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/8055

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This is just another daily cut-and-paste troll post by the ugly
lesbian Philippino whore abianchen, real name Meichi. Ignore her.

Facts about abianchen/Meichi the despicable ugly lesbian Philippino
whore:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/ca085dc133ad3cae

Abianchen is not Chinese. She is a fraud, and above all, she is damn
UGLY!

Picture of "abianchen" the Ugly:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/3415206204/

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Qin Shi Huang was right over 2,000 years ago.  Burn all Confucius
books, and bury ALL Confucius scholars alive, starting with abianchen
slut cunt uneducated ugly fool today.

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This is just another daily cut-and-paste troll post by the ugly
lesbian Philippino whore abianchen, real name Meichi. Ignore her.

Facts about abianchen/Meichi the despicable ugly lesbian Philippino
whore:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/ca085dc133ad3cae

Abianchen is not Chinese. She is a fraud, and above all, she is damn
UGLY!

Picture of "abianchen" the Ugly:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/3415206204/

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Asunto: This is just another daily cut-and-paste troll post by the ugly lesbian Philippino whore abianchen, real name Meichi. Ignore her.
This is just another daily cut-and-paste troll post by the ugly
lesbian Philippino whore abianchen, real name Meichi. Ignore her.

Facts about abianchen/Meichi the despicable ugly lesbian Philippino
whore:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/ca085dc133ad3cae

Abianchen is not Chinese. She is a fraud, and above all, she is damn
UGLY!

Picture of "abianchen" the Ugly:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/3415206204/

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El asunto del debate ha cambiado a "China embraces Confucius again" de report2009
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Asunto: This is just another daily cut-and-paste troll post by the ugly lesbian Philippino whore abianchen, real name Meichi. Ignore her.
Whom do you embrace, ugly Philippino lesbian puta abianchen, other
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