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charlie vietcong  
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 Más opciones 26 oct 2009, 23:27
Grupos de noticias: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.korean, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.japan, soc.culture.taiwan
De: charlie vietcong <vietcong.charlie...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:27:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Lun 26 oct 2009 23:27
Asunto: Re: Language and ethnic origin of Korean and Japanese
Sugarless  Anko  said  the  Baekl-Je  people were
 not  true  Koreans  but  were  people  from  Yun  Nan  living
 in  Beak-Je  now  being  called as  Korea .

n Oct 27, 9:18 am, Penang <kalamb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What the fuck?

> Attila the Hun is from the "han" tribe of Korea?

> What the fuck????????????

> On Oct 26, 10:44 am, "Supertech" <ejeo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > What is well known in Asian history is that the royalties of Baekje, after
> > the collapse of its dynasty by Shilla and Tang coalition, fled to Japan,
> > formed a group named Yamato faction and established the unified Japan state
> > in and around 4-5 century AD( about the same time Attila the Hun conquered
> > Western Europe).

> > Naturally, Korean originated Baekje Kingship started the Emperor family of
> > Japan. Also, naturally, they have ample ground to grind axes toward the
> > Shilla ruled Korean state and also toward China as you may have seen in the
> > recent modern history. The Buyeo tribal kingship was the originator of
> > Koguryo and Baekje dynasty in the beginning.

> > In all of the Korean history text books, Japan has been consistently
> > referred to as being midgets, half naked and barbarous people, therefore,
> > being a ruler of Japan was not that much of a glory to those fled to Japan,
> > neither to the perception of  the Shilla people. These inferior complex can
> > manifest itself anytime with violence if proper chances are given with guns
> > and a little bit of early modern technology.

> > This was the only major historical involvement of Japan and Korea. There is
> > no prior Japon influence toward the northern Asia. It didn't happen.

> > Note the center of the worldwide conquetorial expansion of the
> > Koguryo(Buyeo) people started in and around northern BaekDu mountain and in
> > and around the 4th century AD.

> > It reached England to the far west by Attila the Hun and to the far east to
> > Japan by Yamato.

> > But they were all the same people.

> > They called collectively themselves as Hun or Han, meaning BIG and great.
> > Koreans still call themselves Dae Han(Hun) Min Kuk (great Hun people's
> > nation).

> > "KLange" <KLa...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:c0ad6189-3dee-4aad-99a6-a72806d7dac0@p15g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

> > >I have heard it said that some linguists have stated that the limited
> > > evidence available indicates that the extinct  language of Goguryeo is
> > > cognate with Old Japanese, but not related with the Korean language
> > > which derived from that of Silla. Also, it's been said that the two
> > > states of Goguryeo and Baekje were both descended from the old state
> > > of Buyeo, and that Baekje not only has ethnic similarities with
> > > Goguryeo but also has extensive ties with Japan, and as a result, the
> > > states of Goguryo, Baekje were speculated to have been old Japonic
> > > states, in addition to Yamato Japan. Whereas modern Korea derived from
> > > Silla, which is ethnically more distant.

> > > On the other hand, linguists who disagree with the theory states that
> > > toponymes (place names) found in the central part of Korean peninsula
> > > may not be of Goguryeo origin,  but instead a previous substratum
> > > language of the central and southern part of Korean peninsula, namely
> > > a indigenous Japonic lanuage present in prehistoric times. Some proof
> > > of this argument are as follows.
> > > None of the Japanese-like toponymes have been found in northern Korea
> > > or south-west Manchuria where the historical homeland of Buyeo and
> > > Goguryeo were situated.
> > > Also, some Japanese-like toponymes (such as Japanese-like numeral
> > > found in historical homeland of Silla) are also found in southern
> > > Korea.

> > > What are your opinions on the matter?
> > "KLange" <KLa...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:c0ad6189-3dee-4aad-99a6-a72806d7dac0@p15g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

> > >I have heard it said that some linguists have stated that the limited
> > > evidence available indicates that the extinct  language of Goguryeo is
> > > cognate with Old Japanese, but not related with the Korean language
> > > which derived from that of Silla. Also, it's been said that the two
> > > states of Goguryeo and Baekje were both descended from the old state
> > > of Buyeo, and that Baekje not only has ethnic similarities with
> > > Goguryeo but also has extensive ties with Japan, and as a result, the
> > > states of Goguryo, Baekje were speculated to have been old Japonic
> > > states, in addition to Yamato Japan. Whereas modern Korea derived from
> > > Silla, which is ethnically more distant.

> > > On the other hand, linguists who disagree with the theory states that
> > > toponymes (place names) found in the central part of Korean peninsula
> > > may not be of Goguryeo origin,  but instead a previous substratum
> > > language of the central and southern part of Korean peninsula, namely
> > > a indigenous Japonic lanuage present in prehistoric times. Some proof
> > > of this argument are as follows.
> > > None of the Japanese-like toponymes have been found in northern Korea
> > > or south-west Manchuria where the historical homeland of Buyeo and
> > > Goguryeo were situated.
> > > Also, some Japanese-like toponymes (such as Japanese-like numeral
> > > found in historical homeland of Silla) are also found in southern
> > > Korea.

> > > What are your opinions on the matter?


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